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glaciegenita
Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2015 9:07 pm
by Reverdin
I would like to canvas opinions regarding the following
aurinia photos, and whether they would be seen as
glaciegenita or
debilis or both! I would appreciate thoughts on it's status, and whether species/ subspecies favoured by our peers?
![09 E_edited-1.jpg (971.21 KiB) Viewed 498 times 1) aurinia Haute Savoie](./files/thumb_11311_d59044c292765f2b940eee71dd9e97be)
- 1) aurinia Haute Savoie
![110702 E.jpg (687.21 KiB) Viewed 498 times 2) aurinia Haute Savoie](./files/thumb_11311_69adc7d1b214d0cff6a49b777d479026)
- 2) aurinia Haute Savoie
![110707 E.jpg (725.9 KiB) Viewed 498 times 3) aurinia Simplonpass](./files/thumb_11311_1bfc066affb41c164d16b4bae6041053)
- 3) aurinia Simplonpass
![110708 E.jpg (1.01 MiB) Viewed 496 times 4) aurinia Nr Zermatt](./files/thumb_11311_dd52b123608c8d61735ec7fb3eeffc86)
- 4) aurinia Nr Zermatt
![130705 E.jpg (910.62 KiB) Viewed 495 times 5) aurinia Albula Pass](./files/thumb_11311_c7c2061a9808c615850f3e643a8fd34f)
- 5) aurinia Albula Pass
Re: glaciegenita
Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2015 9:38 pm
by Padfield
I'd love to help, Paul, but I have no idea what the current orthodoxy is on this. All your pictures fit into the category I call, for convenience, 'debilis', but I am aware this is probably not even a valid name. Glaciegenita is a valid name - but whether it is species or subspecies or even cladal at all are things I don't know at the moment. I hope someone replies citing an authoritative paper so I can get my own taxonomy straight!
Guy
Re: glaciegenita
Posted: Tue May 26, 2015 2:26 pm
by Pieter Vantieghem
As far as I know 'debilis' is the taxon flying in the Pyrenees and 'glaciegenita' is flying in the Alps, however, me to would like to see more literature solving this problem.
Re: glaciegenita
Posted: Sat May 30, 2015 9:48 pm
by Reverdin
thank you Pieter for that further input... I guess as mine are all Alpine, I maybe ought to label them ssp gaciegenita, but seems it would be a good PhD project for someone!!