Moths ID help please: With ladybird thrown in

[zigzag_wanderer]

Hi,

On my walk today I saw a few day flying moths and would appreciate any help in ID'ing a couple if i may.

Taken in mid Sussex.

The first was in a field hedgerow. It was very small but beautiful marked, including the abdomen. The most striking thing was the rich chestnut brown band across the forewings.

The second was a fair bit larger. It was flying along a public bridleway. When I first noticed it the impression was of something unmarked with an off-white colour. It then took a dive under a leaf. It had absolutely no concern about my hand going underneath it to take a snap....unfortunately i focused the leaf a bit better than I did the moth, but it shows more markings than i could see in flight.

With the first one. I didn't notice the ladybird at all until reviewing the image just now. Can't see the whole thing but I think that's a 16-spot rather than a 14-spot variant ?

Ta muchly in advance for any help.

[Allan.W.]

The top one ……………..pretty sure Red Twinspot Carpet (with unusual Harlequin Lady bird ……….Happy to be corrected )
The lower one ,looks like Riband Wave ,although ………….with respect ,the view is a little shady .
Regards Allan.W.

[bugboy]

I'll pass on the Moths, I'm sure you're ID's a correct though but your ladybird is a 16-spot, Tytthaspis sedecimpunctata

[zigzag_wanderer]

Many thanks to both of you for this.

I've just checked online Alan and I make you right on both of those...even with the second picture being in the shade and out of focus !

Cheers for the confirmation bugboy - the 16 spot looked the best fit in terms of the two rows of spots, but I wasn't sure.

[zigzag_wanderer]

Apologies for dropping an "l" there Allan.