Marseilles and South of France 2018

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Re: Marseilles and South of France 2018

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You may well get to see epistygne, David, but whether you'll get to photograph it is another matter.

I spent two hours wandering around in northern Var this afternoon for the one rather poor photo below.

There are three basic weather conditions:
1. sunny - so it flies non-stop
2. overcast - it closes up and settles in the undergrowth
3. windy - it is airborne never to be seen again
Added to that, it is very nervous and difficult to approach.
Erebia epistygne_45070.JPG
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Re: Marseilles and South of France 2018

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Roger Gibbons wrote:You may well get to see epistygne, David, but whether you'll get to photograph it is another matter.

I spent two hours wandering around in northern Var this afternoon for the one rather poor photo below.

There are three basic weather conditions:
1. sunny - so it flies non-stop
2. overcast - it closes up and settles in the undergrowth
3. windy - it is airborne never to be seen again
Added to that, it is very nervous and difficult to approach.
These are the kind of challenges I like, Roger. Being in France is always a pleasure, and even more so when you've a new butterfly species to pursue...regardless of how flighty it is!
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David M wrote: .. These are the kind of challenges I like, Roger. Being in France is always a pleasure, and even more so when you've a new butterfly species to pursue...
Don't worry David, you have the right friends in the right places which can lead to the right sightings.
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Re: Marseilles and South of France 2018

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Chris Jackson wrote:Don't worry David, you have the right friends in the right places which can lead to the right sightings.
This is the kind of language I like, Chris, and, of course, there is a 'payback' element as a matter of routine! :)
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Re: Marseilles and South of France 2018

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26th April - South of France

The olive grove behind my workplace is coming back to life.
This place saw nearly 40 species of butterfly over the year and they are slowly drifting back.
It burnt down 2 years ago and this week it has seen the return of Glanville Fritillary and Spotted Fritillary.
Today I had my first sighting of the year of Southern White Admiral #37:
reducta26 Vitrolles olive grove 26Apr18 (2).JPG
reducta26 Vitrolles olive grove 26Apr18 (1).JPG
The path down the side of the olive grove:
context - reducta26 Vitrolles olive grove 26Apr18.JPG
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Beautiful. I saw these guys in Corfu last summer for the first time. They really are beautiful butterflies.
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Re: Marseilles and South of France 2018

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Hi Nick,
I'm sorry, I didn't reply to you from Tuesday but I was overtaken by things.
Let's hope your sightings in Scotland start picking up soon.
The Southern White Admiral is a real cracker when it is fresh like this one, with the metallic blue sheen.
I was pleased to get this shot because of the wind today so I can't complain.
It is always the same case that you want something that you havn't got, and what is pretty exotic for me would be to see quite simply a regular White Admiral :? - now that would be original, but they cannot be found down here.
Perhaps time for you to plan your summer holidays or a spring getaway?

Happy hunting.
Chris
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Beautiful reducta, Chris; it's a species that's tricky to get a fully open winged image of so well done there.

Nice to see your olive grove recovering too after the awful destruction in 2016. It doesn't take nature long to recolonise, does it?
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cracking photos Chris ! i enjoyed the SWA especially.

chapeau

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Re: Marseilles and South of France 2018

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Thanks, David and Charles,

April 29th - South of France,

Weather a bit dodgy for the coming days even down here.
This is what I saw today very locally in Marseilles:
A recently emerged Orange Tip cat on "Arabis sagittata", heavily cropped ...
(FZ150 8) )
cardamines caterpillar on Arabis sagittata St Marcel 29Apr18 (1aa).JPG
... less heavily cropped ...
cardamines caterpillar on Arabis sagittata St Marcel 29Apr18 (1a).JPG
... and true size :
cardamines caterpillar on Arabis sagittata St Marcel 29Apr18 (1).JPG
its host plant down here, Arabis sagittata:
context - cardamines caterpillar on Arabis sagittata St Marcel 29Apr18 (2).JPG
the woodland context:
context - cardamines caterpillar on Arabis sagittata St Marcel 29Apr18 (1).JPG
In the same place on the outskirts of Marseilles, a Western Dappled White cat, cropped (FZ150 8) ):
crameri caterpillar on Biscutella laevigata St Marcel 29Apr18 (1a).JPG
on "Biscutella laevigata" (Buckler's Mustard) :
crameri caterpillar on Biscutella laevigata St Marcel 29Apr18 (1).JPG
... its context, looking east to Aubagne .. :
context - crameri caterpillar on Biscutella laevigata St Marcel 29Apr18.JPG
A Scarce Swallowtail subdued by the overcast conditions:
podalirius23 St Marcel 29Apr18 (4).JPG
podalirius23 St Marcel 29Apr18 (3).JPG
podalirius23 St Marcel 29Apr18 (1).JPG
In English this may be called "Hound's tongue .. something .." (Cynoglossum creticum). Not good fodder for cattle, apparently:
Cynoglosse rayée St Marcel 29Apr18 - Copie.JPG
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Re: Marseilles and South of France 2018

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30 April - South of France.

Next up in the Zerynthia saga.
My Southern Festoon (polyxena) eggs having hatched, and the caterpillars steadily growing, today I turned my attention to the Spanish Festoon (rumina) site not far from my workplace.
This species runs slightly later than polyxena, and the females were still laying today.
I was in the right place at the right time.

Female laying on Aristolochia pistolochia:
rumina32 female laying Vallon du G 30Apr18 (1).JPG
Topsides of same female at rest:
rumina32 female Vallon du G 30Apr18 (2).JPG
The egg (not always on the underside of the leaf):
rumina32 egg Vallon du G 30Apr18 (6).JPG
The host plant:
Aristoloche pistolochia - rumina32 Vallon du G 30Apr18.JPG
The context:
context - rumina32 Vallon du G 30Apr18.JPG
Cheers,
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Re: Marseilles and South of France 2018

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Great reports Chris, what a beauty that SWA is. :mrgreen:
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Lovely though rumina is, I'm afraid it doesn't age well! Nice to see the context again, Chris. Always gives me pointers for the future.
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Blue Hound's Tongue

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Re: Marseilles and South of France 2018

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Thanks Andrew, David and Charles for your comments.

I've been rushing around recently and getting nowhere, that's why I've been so long in replying.
Down here the weather is still far from predictable at the moment and with one thing and another I'm not getting the sightings that I should at this time of the year.

Here is a follow on from my local Southern Festoon colony. The SF adult is (obviously) no longer flying on this date.
This is a short summary of the progress of my Southern Festoon cats this year on their host plant Aristolochia rotunda, near my workplace in the Bouches du Rhône:

Reminder, April 24th:
24apr.JPG
Reminder, May 3rd:
03mai.JPG
Today, May 16th:
16may.JPG
In this last photo, the large cat = 2.5 cm (its head is on the right); the smaller cat = 1.0 cm (its head is on the left).

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Re: Marseilles and South of France 2018

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Wow! That’s quite an increase in size, Chris, particularly when comparing it to the smaller larva. Do either of these species go on to have restricted second broods like Dingy Skipper?
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In southern Spain, they do, but I'm not sure if that is the case in southern France.
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Re: Marseilles and South of France 2018

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Hi David and Chris,
I think I would have heard reports if there were any restricted second broods.
Here at low altitude (150 m ASL) both these species have stopped flying this year, but higher up there were reports of Southern Festoon still flying last weekend.

Here are a few of the recently emerged species down in the south of France.
The Marsh Fritillary has been around for a couple of weeks now,
aurinia provencialis13 Vallon du Cros 20May18.JPG
whereas I had my first sightings this weekend of Spanish Gatekeeper
bathseba27 Plateau de Vitrolles 19May18.JPG
and Meadow Brown. Western Marbled White is on the wing in good numbers, and today at lunch I saw my first False Ilex Hairstreak #49 of the year, not affected by the offset that affected earlier species this year.
esculi22 Vitrolles scrub 21May18 (1a).JPG
Here is some context. You can see the mountain of the Sainte Baume in the centre background.
Context La Taurelle 18May18 (3).JPG
Context La Taurelle 18May18 (2).JPG
Context La Taurelle 18May18 (1).JPG
Orchis pyramidalis
La Taurelle 18May18 (35).JPG
Red-underwing Skipper
sertorius22 Vallon du Cros 20May18.JPG
Spotted Fritillary, female
didyma1 female La Taurelle 18May18 (17).JPG
Adonis Blue
bellargus16 male La Taurelle 18May18 (1).JPG
Small Heath
pamphilus28 La Taurelle 18May18 (1).JPG
Southern Heath Fritillary
helvetica23 La Taurelle 18May18 (1).JPG
Green-underside Blue
alexis11 male La Taurelle 18May18 (5).JPG
Cheers,
Chris
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Re: Marseilles and South of France 2018

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Lovely Red Underwing shot, Chris. Are things warming up for you yet? Seems like France is being squeezed out of the high pressure zones right now.
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Re: Marseilles and South of France 2018

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David M wrote:Lovely Red Underwing shot, Chris. Are things warming up for you yet? Seems like France is being squeezed out of the high pressure zones right now.
Thanks David,
The weather has got better these last few days, with 30°C announced for tomorrow (Saturday 26/05). However a look at the forecast shows some more damp for next week. As a general comment I would say that down here the butterfly phenology has rejoined its norm, and that the 10-day lag in butterfly emergence noted with the early spring species no longer seems to apply. I had my first Two-tailed Pasha sighting this week which is bang on time for me :D .

Following the wildfires in August 2016, my lunchtime olive grove patch has been steadily growing back. Honeysuckle is visible and yesterday I made an interesting discovery which fits in with a sighting of a Southern White Admiral at the end of April.
reducta27 egg on Lonicera implexa Vitrolles olive grove 25May18 (4).JPG
L. reducta egg on Lonicera implexa
reducta27 egg on Lonicera implexa Vitrolles olive grove 25May18 (4a).JPG
This L. reducta cat is currently the largest at 1 cm long
reducta27 caterpillar4 on Lonicera implexa Vitrolles olive grove 25May18 (2).JPG
There are other smaller cats
reducta27 caterpillar3 on Lonicera implexa Vitrolles olive grove 24May18 (3).JPG
and we can note the characteristic feeding pattern, with the central rib remaining
reducta27 caterpillar2 on Lonicera implexa Vitrolles olive grove 24May18 (1).JPG
reducta27 caterpillar1 on Lonicera implexa Vitrolles olive grove 24May18 (4).JPG
Here is the context in the olive grove and the Lonicera implexa
context Lonicera implexa reducta27 Vitrolles olive grove 25May18 (1).JPG
This is the imago that was seen back in April
reducta26 Vitrolles olive grove 26Apr18 (2).JPG
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Cheers, Chris
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