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Skipper for ID

Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2018 3:30 pm
by Medard
One for the Skipper experts, seen near Lalbenque,South east of Cahors ,France.
Opposite the Borie.
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Re: Skipper for ID

Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2018 4:18 pm
by Padfield
Do you have even a glimpse of an underside?

Guy

Re: Skipper for ID

Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2018 7:33 pm
by David M
Yes, it's quite a puzzler is that, and proof positive of how both upper and undersides are required when identifying this genus.

Re: Skipper for ID

Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2018 8:11 pm
by Padfield
My instant reaction was onopordi, but there are alternatives. Just a glimpse of the uns would suffice ... :D

Guy

Re: Skipper for ID

Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2018 6:46 am
by Medard
Hellow Guy, sorry no underside shot, the colour drew my attention,it was very elusive,Tristan Lafranchis has the following listed for the district, see Chazara briseis Lafranchis 2001 (6,41 MB)
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Silver-spotted skipper,Cinquefoil skipper and Safflower skipper.
I was at this site in hopes of finding the Hermit,more pics to follow as time permits.
Are these two Greyling ?
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Not sure about the Blue either
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Silver-spotted skipper, nimble little critters,they vanish as quick as you spot them.

Re: Skipper for ID

Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2018 7:38 am
by Padfield
I just looked on Google maps to see precisely where Lalbenque is and it does seem to coincide exactly with a known location for onopordi. Your butterfly is certainly not the other species you mention, so I still go for that.

Your first grayling is the British grayling, semele. The second is a female tree grayling, Hipparchia statilinus. As for the blue, it's a female of the subgenus (or genus, depending on author) Lysandra. I would suggest it is chalkhill blue, Polyommatus (Lysandra) coridon.

Guy

Re: Skipper for ID

Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2018 5:45 pm
by Medard
Hello Guy thanks for your comments,Rosy Grizzled Skipper (Pyrgus onopordi) is a new species for me, also pleased with the Hipparchia statilinus only the second one I've seen.
A few more pictures from the same location,apparently the route of St. Jacques de Compostelle passes this location,only wish my knees would allow me to walk it.
Clouded yellow.
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Queen of Spain.
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and more blues that I asume are Polyommatus (Lysandra) coridon.