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Tortoiseshell Pics

Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 4:31 pm
by Dave McCormick
I used my tripod today and saw a better result. I managed to get cool and close to these and shoot a vdecent video too. Are these a male and female?

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I also got at 50sec video too.

Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 4:37 pm
by Pete Eeles
Nice pics Dave! Yes - this is a male and female. The male is the one at the bottom of the pic. During the courting ritual, the male "drums" his antennae on the wings of the female.

Cheers,

- Pete

Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 4:38 pm
by Dave McCormick
Thanks, I maight be able to get more if a bee had not have disturbed them.

How long does it take bfore the business begins? I got another 6:40mins of video.

This will prove excellent for my website I am creating. I will create a short "documentry" on this so you can watch online the mating process.

Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 5:47 pm
by Pete Eeles
if you read the description at

http://www.ukbutterflies.co.uk/species. ... toiseshell

you'll see that this could take literally hours!

Cheers,

- Pete

Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 6:12 pm
by Dave McCormick
Thanks, just finished my video. I will show you when my website is up and running.

Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 10:43 pm
by Dave McCormick
Here are the information on those pics:

Top was from video

Bottom pic:

f/4.5
Exposure = 1/500sec
ISO-400
Metering = Multi Spot
No Flash

Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2007 7:16 am
by Gwenhwyfar
Nice composition Dave.

How do you tell which is male and which is female, I can't see the difference. :?

Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2007 7:48 am
by lurkalot
Gwenhwyfar wrote:Nice composition Dave.

How do you tell which is male and which is female, I can't see the difference. :?
That's a very good question, and one that I was curious about too. :wink:

Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2007 8:24 am
by Pete Eeles
Sexing many vanessids (Small Tortoiseshell, Red Admiral, Comma, Peacock, Painted Lady etc.) is really difficult. In this case, I'm going on behaviour (the male "drumming" the wings of the female). There are subtle differences in appearance (the female having a larger abdomen, possibly rounder wings) but nothing conclusive.

Cheers,

- Pete

Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2007 1:42 pm
by Dave McCormick
I have began to notice over years what size the male and female are because in Small Tortoiseshell the male is slightly smaller as many butterflies, but ususally the female is duller in colour.

O.K. here is the only video of mine you will see for a while until my site is up and running. Here is the two tortoiseshells:

http://dailypics.ning.com/video/video/s ... deo%3A4091

Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2007 3:46 pm
by Pete Eeles
Nice one Dave!

Cheers,

- Pete

Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2007 7:00 pm
by Gwenhwyfar
Thanks for showing it Dave, it was really nicely done.

Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2007 7:41 pm
by Dave McCormick
I try and get natural shots and videos. Since my camera takes good videos and I see somthing e.g. a caterpillar eating or mating or a butterfly sucking nectar or mud puddling, I get those shots and make a short video on it. It's better as it shows more than a photo could.

My website shows all aspects of butterflies and moths and I will show you when its ready. I have 5 videos so far on the site and hoping for more throughout the year.

I take the videos, take photos, get all the shots together and make a WMV video on whats currently going on e.g. pupating butterfly etc.. Most will be in the same layout as above, some will be slight different.