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White from the Savoie - ID help please

Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2017 12:33 pm
by Sylvie_h
I really don't know how I should label this pretty butterfly. My feeling is that it is a green veined white with reduced markings maybe ? It was found at 900m in Savoie (73) . Can anybody with a good knowledge of French butterfly fauna help with this ?
Thank you very much indeed.
Sylvie
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Re: White from the Savoie - ID help please

Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2017 12:41 pm
by David M
I find the Green Veined Whites in the Alps to be extremely faintly marked, Sylvie, so much so that guests on our recent trip couldn't believe it when I was calling them such. I actually had to catch one in my vial to show them close up.

In contrast, male Mountain Green Veined Whites are only slightly more darkly marked than regular male GVWs are in the UK.

Re: White from the Savoie - ID help please

Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2017 12:45 pm
by Sylvie_h
Thank you David for confirming the ID.
Sylvie

Re: White from the Savoie - ID help please

Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2017 1:24 pm
by Padfield
In the summer brood, the upperside of green-veined whites is more strongly marked than in the spring but the underside is much more weakly marked. This is true in the UK too. Some summer brood individuals have virtually no evidence of green veining on the underside. Your butterfly is a female, ruling out mountain green-veined, whose females are very heavily marked and suffused with grey on a yellow ground colour. So as David says, this is unambiguously a green-veined white.

Guy

Re: White from the Savoie - ID help please

Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2017 12:02 pm
by Sylvie_h
Hi Guy,

Thank you for the information, it is good insight as I did not know this. Do you know why the summer brood is different than the spring brood?
Sylvie