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Satyrium ID please

Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2017 12:35 pm
by CFB
Am I right in thinking that this is Ilex Hairstreak (Satyrium ilicis),
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and this is Sloe Hairstreak (Satyrium acaciae)?
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Thanks,
Colin

Re: Satyrium ID please

Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2017 2:57 pm
by Padfield
I'd go ilicis for both. I can see why you veer towards acaciae for the second and am prepared to be overruled, but if it is acaciae it is very different from any I have seen.

Guy

Re: Satyrium ID please

Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2017 3:48 pm
by Roger Gibbons
I can see why you veer towards acaciae for the second and am prepared to be overruled
I await with interest the posting that "over-rules" Guy...

I'm strongly inclined to agree that both are ilicis but those marginal markings on the second image do indeed look very much like typical acaciae. Other features, such as the irregular line (and acaciae varies quite a lot here, but not this much), and the hindwing shape preclude acaciae for my money. I would expect the acaciae wing shape to be much more obviously rounded, and this is often evident from a distance.

Roger

Re: Satyrium ID please

Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2017 4:01 pm
by David M
I too have one I was struggling to decide between. At first, I thought it was ilicis but when viewing the maximised image plumped for acaciae:
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Re: Satyrium ID please

Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2017 4:18 pm
by Roger Gibbons
I would say yours is classic acaciae, David.

Roger

Re: Satyrium ID please

Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2017 5:37 pm
by CFB
Thanks Guy, Roger and David. I'll rename it ilicis.
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Colin