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Trip to Daneway Banks

Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2016 8:07 pm
by Philzoid
A planned meet up with Wurzel on the Sunday 19th (Father’s Day) for Collard Hill Large Blues was put on the back-burner thanks to the recent atrocious weather and gloomy forecasts. Though there was very little sun on the horizon out west, the forecast offered a glimmer of hope before noon further eastwards. So, on the morning 19th I made my way out to Whitecross Green Wood hoping for a Black Hairstreak sighting. I was able to made good time on M40 the motorway only to take a wrong turn on the Headington Roundabout and get stuck in a dual carriageway traffic jam caused by cones and road-works with, you’ve guessed it no road-works actually taking place :roll: . All U-turn exit roads to get back onto the other side of the carriageway were blocked off so there was only one thing for it first gear crawl till eventually a roundabout allowed for an about turn to put me back on track. 40 minutes or so lost :x .
At WGW the weather was cool and the cloud was soon to thicken up (just my luck). As it was father’s day my youngest daughter respected my wishes for her to come along with me :wink: . She was a very good extra pair of eyes, spotting almost everything before I did :) . Two species new for the season were Meadow Brown and Marbled White. Also seen were Large Skipper and Common Blue. We made our way to the far end of the ride where we’d been tipped-off about a Grass snake atop a compost heap. When we got to the spot the Grass snake was there but alert to our arrival and moved off into the undergrowth leaving only its tail showing. My daughter wanted to know why it was brown (olive brown) and not green as she had expected :? . I told her that was the general colour of the Grass snakes. Some illustrations tend to exaggerate the green-ness I think.
A IMG_6051 Grass Snake sloping off. Whitecross Green Wood.jpg
Suddenly my daughter cried out “what’s that dad”? and there it was a Black Hairstreak jinking around the flowers of a dog rose :shock: . I stood there transfixed as it was looked for all intents and purposes, like it was going to land … but it didn’t. Just a couple of small laps then over the rose and bramble and out of site into the scrub beyond.
We didn’t get see another that day, but met False Apollo who’d told me he’d seen at least half a dozen or so and showed us a good spot. However, catching a sight of one was on condition that the sun put in an appearance, which it didn’t :( . During our time there the sky had turned from white to dark grey cloud so it was time for us to go.
On the M40 it was rush hour(s) and the journey back was slow slow quick quick slow, concertinaing traffic on it and the M25 all the way back to Woking. The only thing that made that part of the journey worthwhile was seeing the dozens of Red Kites floating on the updrafts above the motorway :) . Some photos from Whitecross Green Wood:-
Muntjac deer
Muntjac deer
C IMG_6063 Commom Blue (female) Whitecross Green Wood.jpg
D IMG_7386 Meadow Brown, Whitecross Green Wood t.jpg
Bombus hypnorum or Tree Bee
Bombus hypnorum or Tree Bee
Leptopterna dolabrata or ferrugata, Myrid bug nymph
Leptopterna dolabrata or ferrugata, Myrid bug nymph
So with both me and Wurzel feeling cheated of our weekend we rescheduled our Large Blue foray for the following Sunday. As for the previous weekend, the early forecast offered hope for the weekend only to get worse nearer the day. Nevertheless, it looked promising up to Midday so I made sure to get to Salisbury by 08:00. Wurzel had got it all planned out and suggested Daneway Banks instead of Collard, for a few good reasons. Firstly, it was a new site for us to explore a site that has been receiving more compliments in recent times from other UKB’ers. Secondly Essex Buzzard presented an excellent and encouraging report in his Personal Diary from his visit just the day before, and thirdly staying away from Collard would avoid the risk of getting snarled up in Glastonbury traffic. Though further distance-wise, Wurzel’s knowledge of the back-roads (SatNav assisted) and rally driving skills :wink: ensured we got there in good time :D .
For anyone considering going to Daneway Banks be aware that there is a steep knackering hill to climb up if you park by the Daneway Inn pub. There is space for a couple of cars by the reserve South-west side entrance though I’m not sure whether it is entirely legit to park there (three cars were parked there and opposite when we left).

A trio of ramblers out to look for the Large Blue followed us up the hill and into the reserve. One of them took it upon herself to tell us all where we needed to look so we stayed with them in case local ‘expert’ knowledge would turn up trumps :| . It seemed like ages but was probably less than 5 minutes before Wurzel found one in flight, noticeably darker and slate coloured unlike say a Common Blue. It showed no sign of wanting to land and eventually we lost sight of it as it headed down the hill and over a bank. However, it wasn’t long after that when the rambling groups self appointed ‘leader’ found one and we were able to get some shots off before the group’s ‘second in command’ found another one settled but felt the need to ask us what species was …. It was Large Blue. After that Wurzel and I decided it was time to split.
G IMG_7803 Large Blue (2nd insect), Daneway Banks vg.jpg
There were other butterflies aplenty: - Marbled White; Ringlet; Meadow Brown; Large Skipper and a single female Common Blue were seen. Daneway was the site of my first Ringlets this season. Nice ‘dark chocolate’ examples too :D .
H IMG_7814 Ringlet, Daneway Banks g.jpg
I IMG_7821 Marbled White, Daneway Banks vg.jpg
Continuing to work our way into the reserve along the bottom of the bank by the path I turned up another Large Blue and this one obligingly settled with its wings open, attempting to warm up in weather a bit in the cool side.
J IMG_7846 Large Blue, Daneway Banks.jpg
K IMG_7855 Large Blue, Daneway Banks g.jpg
We worked our way further into the reserve its lush banks clothed in yellow from trefoils, rock rose and Hawksbeard with a good helping of Pyramidal and Common Spotted Orchid other wild flowers 8) .
L IMG_7891 Daneway Banks nature reserve, Gloucestershire.jpg
At this point the weather had continued to hold with light white cloud and blue sky breaks, but the Large Blues seemed to disappear whilst other species such as Ringlet and Marbled White grew in number. We persevered on our route moving further on in and upwards when we came across another butterflier with large camera, tripod and long lens trained on to something (Large Blue of course). He enthused about the area that we were in saying it was good spot particularly for females due to an abundance of Wild Thyme :) . Soon Wurzel had found us another one, in fact two and then another. There was plenty to see in this spot :D .
M IMG_7864 Large Blue (female), Daneway Banks.jpg
N IMG_7875 Large Blue, Daneway Banks gi.jpg
The butterflier didn’t mind our arrival onto ‘his turf’ and in fact was happy enough for us to get in first with our cameras on the ones he found 8) . Gradually though, his demeanour began to change first by criticising “that rubbish Somerset site” :o and then he wound himself up into a rant about his “best mate’s” total lack of photographer’s etiquette because of his consistent knack of barging in and spooking the quarry. It wasn’t raining yet but we were treated to a big shower of expletives :shock: . It was banter right on the edge. Needless to say his bet mate wasn’t there, …. just as well :wink: . Best impression of a Mr Angry / Frank Doberman I’ve seen in a long time :lol: :lol:

The weather then turned gloomier with thicker cloud with barely any sun breaks. A few spots of rain were felt so we slowly made our way back. The plan was to move on to Martin Down for Dark Green Fritillary, but as we got near the entrance area it brightened up and we started to see Large Blue again :D . Another treat for me was a Small Tortoiseshell, a butterfly I rarely encounter in Surrey :D .
O IMG_7901 Small Tortoiseshell, Daneway Banks.jpg
P IMG_6171 Large Blue Daneway Banks vg t.jpg
Q IMG_7910 Large Blue, Daneway Banks vg.jpg
R IMG_7919 Large Blue, Danneway Banks gi.jpg
Calocoris roseomaculatus, Mirid Bug
Calocoris roseomaculatus, Mirid Bug
T IMG_7937 Large Skipper, Daneway Banks vg.jpg
U IMG_7969 Large Blue, Daneway Banks.jpg
The sun putting in a final show had tempted us to stay but we decided to trust the forecast and headed off after a stop for lunch. On the way back I kept nodding off :oops: , perhaps too many late nights and early mornings moth-trapping sessions? It was then that Wurzel decided that the Tidworth Duke site was a better proposition for Dark Green Fritillary being easier and quicker to get to than Martin Down with our time restricted by the bad weather closing in. This turned out to be a great move :D .
We checked an area where I’d seen them previously in late summer and were only a 100 yards in when there it was, a male DGF nectaring on the only flowering knapweed around (but soon moved onto red clover). I ran off a couple of macro distance shots before its next hop allowed the wind to carry it away (I think Wurzel who spotted it did better).
V IMG_7983 Dark Green Fritillary, Tidworth.jpg
Rather than chase off in the direction of the butterfly we made for a line of trees which would provide shelter from the wind. On the way we encountered another flowering knapweed but this time it was carrying two male Marbled White :o who were being buffeted by the breeze.
W IMG_7985 Marbled White (2 male), Tidworth gi.jpg
The gloomy conditions were ideal for getting close to the Marbled Whites which are usually very difficult to get near to on sunny days.
X IMG_7997 Marbled White, Tidworth.jpg
Y IMG_7999 Marbled White, Tidworth.jpg
In the sheltered area we found what we were looking for: - Dark Green Fritillary and then I came across a group of three males hunkered down close together :o . One of these immediately took off then a second made a getaway but the third decided to stay put and close up its wings. I was absolutely chuffed to get my first ever fully lateral shots of the underside of a DGF :D .
Z IMG_8004 Dark Green Fritillary, Tidworth.jpg
Our final check before leaving was on an area where which is good for Small Copper … sadly not this time but no problem, we’d had a thoroughly enjoyable day’s butterflying :D . I also got myself a few moth photos to work on too.

Daneway Banks is a brilliant site well worth visiting.

Next foray planned is a visit Durslton or Lulworth for Lulworth Skipper and Wall .. providing the weather (or anything else for that matter) doesn’t conspire.

Phil

Re: Trip to Daneway Banks

Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2016 9:57 pm
by Wurzel
Great shots Philzoid! It was a another brill day with a little of everything - new moth species, reaquainting ourselves with favourites and some class comedy :D Where to next then?
Have a goodun

Wurzel

Re: Trip to Daneway Banks

Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2016 7:45 am
by Philzoid
Thanks Wurzel :) . It was a brill day ....have never seen Large Blue so fresh and so up-close and the underside Dark Green Fritillary was the icing on the cake :D

One of the perks of butterflying are some real characters you meet out in the field :wink:

Would love to go to Durlston(!) as I said but also the trip out west for High Browns if we can fit it in around our holidays and other things? Then there’s Purple Emperor season not far away (hope we can get some conducive weekend weather for that). White-letter hairstreaks at Cosham (or Bentley) :?

Today I’ve got a lot of chores but am going to try for Silver-studded Blues …and I’m lagging behind your species tally a bit :wink:

Re: Trip to Daneway Banks

Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2016 4:46 pm
by Susie
Excellent report. Do you think large blues will still be on the wing?

Re: Trip to Daneway Banks

Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2016 5:16 pm
by Philzoid
Susie wrote:Excellent report. Do you think large blues will still be on the wing?
I don't know too much about this species but I think you'd be very unlucky not to see one if you went now or a week later. Most of the ones we saw on the 26th were fresh examples and mostly males.

Re: Trip to Daneway Banks

Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2016 5:25 pm
by MikeOxon
Susie wrote:Excellent report. Do you think large blues will still be on the wing?
Plenty still there when I went on July 1st, though keeping low down in breezy, cool conditions. The butterflies are widely spread over the whole site.

Yourself and Wurzel do go in for mega-trips, Phil. I find Daneway is plenty to cope with in one day :) Like you, I found the Large Blues surprisingly willing to pose with open wings this year - perhaps due to the cool conditions. I especially like your shots on the common-spotted orchids - they didn't do that for me!

Re: Trip to Daneway Banks

Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2016 6:04 pm
by Susie
Thanks Mike. I may try to get there tomorrow.

Re: Trip to Daneway Banks

Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2016 6:12 am
by Jack Harrison
Daneway seems to be very good (at least this year) for Large Blues. Is Daneway as good as or even better than Collard Hill and other Poldens sites?

Jack

Re: Trip to Daneway Banks

Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2016 10:57 am
by MikeOxon
Jack Harrison wrote:Daneway seems to be very good (at least this year) for Large Blues. Is Daneway as good as or even better than Collard Hill and other Poldens sites?
I think the question splits into two parts - good for whom - the butterflies or the visitors? For the butterflies, only time will tell. Daneway is a 'traditional' site and should meet their needs, providing human 'interference' does not change things in ways we do not understand.

For the visitor, Collard Hill has easier access by road (Daneway is tucked away down narrow lanes, with limited parking opportunities) and is better signed and wardened, to provide information to visitors. Daneway is a more 'difficult' site, with the butterflies spread over a large area, and with steep banks, narrow paths, and thick vegetation.

There is a lot of other wildlife and an extensive flora at Daneway, which could become vulnerable to over-visiting.

Re: Trip to Daneway Banks

Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2016 12:38 pm
by Jack Harrison
ike
I think the question splits into two parts - good for whom - the butterflies or the visitors?
I had not meant to be so ambiguous.

The butterflies have to come first. A strong presence has potential to colonise nearby sites as I believe has already happened in the Poldens (railway cutting).

Jack

Re: Trip to Daneway Banks

Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2016 6:30 pm
by millerd
Jack Harrison wrote: A strong presence has potential to colonise nearby sites as I believe has already happened in the Poldens (railway cutting).

Jack
You're right, Jack. I believe the butterfly can be found at several sites along the Polden Hills (I have seen a figure of 20 sites mentioned somewhere on the net), and the rangers at Collard have been performing counts on neighbouring hillsides. However, the railway cutting you mention is probably at Green Down, where I think they were introduced before they were at Collard Hill. In the past, Somerset Wildlife Trust always closed this Green Down to the public during the Large Blue season (except for specific open days) in order to protect it. The quid pro quo was the very open access allowed to Collard Hill so the public would be allowed an appreciation of this lovely butterfly. There is a public footpath along the top of Green Down which cannot be shut, but you shouldn't stray from this if the hillside is closed. However, I don't know if the policy has changed recently. The Large Blue may also have spread along the railway of course.

It makes you wonder whether it would thrive in other places. I was on a slope at Box Hill recently, facing west, which sported very similar flora to that which I had seen at Collard, including clumps of thyme on anthills. Was this the right ant? I couldn't tell you, but the hillside looked perfect.

Incidentally, I think it's been a good season at Collard despite the weather, starting in early June and double figures still reported yesterday.

Dave

Re: Trip to Daneway Banks

Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2016 7:19 pm
by Jack Harrison
There is a public footpath along the top of Green Down
I saw a single Large Blue there around eight years ago.

Jack