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Wierd

Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2014 11:08 am
by MartinJ
Image

Top half looks like Red Admiral but the bottom half is all wrong for RA. Cross breed? Aboration? All input gratefully received.

Martin.

Re: Wierd

Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2014 11:18 am
by Mark Colvin
Hi Martin,

This is a New Zealand Red Admiral (Vanessa gonerilla).

Kind regards. Mark

Re: Wierd

Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2014 2:39 pm
by MartinJ
Thank you very much. It was taken by someone I know and didn't get the chance to ask him where ho took it yet. I shall now dumbfound with my newly aquired knowledge :lol:

Martin.

Re: Wierd

Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2014 2:43 pm
by David M
What a beautiful insect!

Re: Wierd

Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2014 4:13 pm
by John W
I thought someone had been playing with Photoshop when I first saw it!

Re: Wierd

Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2014 5:26 pm
by MikeOxon
Another interesting glimpse of evolution! The New Zealand form persists there and the British form here. I expect both show small variability in their home ranges but not much. What makes individual species patterns so persistent and yet different in different places?

Re: Wierd

Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2014 8:20 pm
by David M
I'm intrigued as to why evolution has dictated that this southern hemisphere form has bold spots on the periphery of the hindwings whereas the northern version does not.

Re: Wierd

Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2014 10:35 pm
by Pete Eeles
I wonder what the common ancestor looked like! Anyway, they're different because they have different environmental forces acting upon them. For example, there may be an avian predator in the southern hemisphere that isn't found in the northern hemisphere, hence the spots. That's how evolution works :)

Cheers,

- Pete

Re: Wierd

Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2014 9:44 am
by Padfield
Similar (but less exaggerated) spots are found on some of the more distantly related painted ladies, like the American painted lady and the West Coast lady:

http://www.wildutah.us/html/butterflies ... adult.html

This suggests their evolutionary origin predates the divergence of red admirals and painted ladies.

Guy