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British gorganus Swallowtails

Posted: Mon May 19, 2014 7:51 pm
by Neil Hulme
Things are now really hotting up following the April sightings of British-born gorganus (European) Swallowtail at Magdalen Hill Down (Hants.) and Seabrook (Kent), followed by May sightings at ARC Pit, Scotney (Kent/East Sussex border) and the first emergent butterfly from a batch of pupae being monitored in a Chichester garden (West Sussex). I have just heard of further 'tails being spotted at Peacehaven (East Sussex) on Thursday and Chanctonbury Ring (West Sussex) on Sunday. Exciting times!
BWs Neil

Re: British gorganus Swallowtails

Posted: Mon May 19, 2014 8:20 pm
by Butterflysaurus rex
Exciting times indeed! I'll bet you they'll all avoid me like the plague though. Maybe if I dressed up as a carrot? Do you think I might attract any that way. :wink: I'll give it a go and if it does I'll send you a selfie of me as a carrot all covered in gorganus. Seriously though I would love to see one.

B'saurus

Re: British gorganus Swallowtails

Posted: Mon May 19, 2014 8:30 pm
by Neil Hulme
Hi rex,
Dressing in a carrot costume (orange foam body and green tights) is, in my opinion, almost certain to work. Try it at once.
BWs, Neil

Re: British gorganus Swallowtails

Posted: Mon May 19, 2014 8:35 pm
by Butterflysaurus rex
Now then - you don't think I'll look a little bit silly do you? :wink: The things I'm willing to do to see a Swallowtail eh!

All the Best

B'saurus

Re: British gorganus Swallowtails

Posted: Mon May 19, 2014 8:52 pm
by David M
This development has one major advantage - these butterflies will be noticed wherever they go.

If you've never seen a Swallowtail before and you suddenly encounter one, my guess is that you would report it.

It'll be interesting to see how many sightings are confirmed in the forthcoming few weeks.

Re: British gorganus Swallowtails

Posted: Mon May 19, 2014 9:06 pm
by Lee Hurrell
How exciting this is! Let's hope they breed on :D

Re: British gorganus Swallowtails

Posted: Mon May 19, 2014 9:23 pm
by millerd
Excellent news - if the home-grown ones are emerging to coincide with a few more blown over on the warm southerlies from the continent, then the chances of them meeting up and breeding would be much enhanced. This is how populations become established, I guess. Plenty of wild fennel round here, but they would have to travel quite a bit further...

Dave

Re: British gorganus Swallowtails

Posted: Sat May 24, 2014 10:23 am
by Neil Hulme
Update from the BC Sussex website:

"Number 5 is alive! A fifth Sussex Swallowtail has emerged. Number 5 was originally found as a caterpillar in a garden near Eastbourne last August. However, it had been taken indoors for some time where it pupated and we feared that this warm and dry environment could have dessicated the pupae. It was moved back outdoors (in a kid's mesh butterfly cage) where the chrysalis enjoyed the lovely British winter. Yesterday we were thrilled to discover it had made it through OK!"

Great news, although this one doesn't 'count' in my books, having been artificially assisted.

BWs, Neil

Re: British gorganus Swallowtails

Posted: Fri May 30, 2014 8:29 am
by Neil Hulme
I found a beautiful, freshly emerged male gorganus on the outskirts of Chichester yesterday (see viewtopic.php?f=29&t=4065&start=1640) on rough land near the superstores, and another has apparently emerged today from monitored pupae in Eastbourne.
BWs, Neil

Re: British gorganus Swallowtails

Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2014 8:44 pm
by selbypaul
Hi Neil
Thanks for reporting the good news.

Can I ask a few questions? Firstly, is the recent set of emergences the first few of many more over the next few weeks? Or are we going to be limited to a small number? And secondly, how likely is it that those that do emerge will find each other and breed?

Thanks in advance
Paul

Re: British gorganus Swallowtails

Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2014 9:29 pm
by Neil Hulme
Hi Paul,

Both are interesting questions.

To give some measure of where we are within the sequence of British gorganus first brood emergences, of the 9 pupae being monitored in a Chichester garden, only 3 have yet emerged. I suspect that this statistic can be crudely rolled out for the entire population.

Will these numbers be sufficient for any/many to meet the opposite sex? Although relatively few are likely to be recognised/reported, I suspect there are probably a couple of hundred pupae scattered around the southern counties. Again guess work, but that should be enough for a second brood ... probably, just.

BWs, Neil

Re: British gorganus Swallowtails

Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2014 11:12 am
by MrSp0ck
The Swallowtails should hilltop, so there is a good chance they will meet, if enough emerge in the same areas and there is a high point to hilltop.

Re: British gorganus Swallowtails

Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2014 1:30 pm
by jasonbirder
Are any of these Gorganus Swallowtails available to the wider at public at publicised/open access sites? Or gardens where the owner is happy to accept visitors (perhaps for a small donation to a conservation charity of his/her choice)...

They're sufficiently different from our native subspecies that i'd be keen to catch up with one!

Re: British gorganus Swallowtails

Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2014 1:47 pm
by Neil Hulme
Hi Jason,

Other than those being monitored in a private Chichester garden, most other sightings have been from places with public access. Unfortunately, this species hasn't proven particularly 'twitchable', so there haven't been any repeat sightings .... yet. The same applied to the primary immigrants seen in summer 2013, until one was tracked to roost and then became grounded by bad weather. They are very mobile butterflies, so the chances of them sticking in one place are quite low. However, if an egg-laying female is spotted in an area with plenty of food-plant then there's a good chance it will be possible to relocate it. Luck is definitely required at the moment, but less luck might be necessary once the population grows. Fingers crossed!

BWs, Neil

Re: British gorganus Swallowtails

Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2014 8:44 am
by selbypaul
Thanks for answering my questions Neil. Fingers crossed!
Paul

Re: British gorganus Swallowtails

Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2014 8:27 am
by Neil Hulme
Details of another British gorganus (possibly two) seen at Steyning here viewtopic.php?f=29&t=4065&start=1660, plus news of another adult emerging in the monitored Chichester garden.
BWs, Neil

Re: British gorganus Swallowtails

Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2014 10:43 am
by Paul Wetton
Hi Neil

I guess twitching one of these beauties from Nottingham is a bit of a difficult task especially considering the problems I had with another tailed species last year. What do you think my chances would be in a couple of weeks time.

Many thanks

Re: British gorganus Swallowtails

Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2014 7:17 pm
by Neil Hulme
Hi Paul,

I failed to relocate the female at Steyning this morning. These things are proving exceptionally hard to twitch, even from short range! Not a single specimen has been relocated yet, following the initial sighting or departure from the Golden Garden. I suspect things might get a little easier as their numbers grow, but I reckon a large slice of luck is going to play a major part in most sightings.

BWs, Neil

Re: British gorganus Swallowtails

Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2014 7:55 pm
by Susie
This is probably a daft question but are allotments a good place to look for these?

Re: British gorganus Swallowtails

Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2014 8:08 pm
by Neil Hulme
No such thing as a daft question on UKB Susie :wink: .
In a nutshell "yes", and particularly any flower-rich grassland nearby.
As the summer kicks in it must be worth wandering along the top of the Downs, where I suspect highly mobile males will be roaming.
BWs, Neil