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Prepare yourselves for more extremes

Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 9:24 pm
by David M
I noticed a few days ago that my daily paper was predicting general temperatures of 14C by the middle of next week in southern and eastern Britain.

Having watched the weather for the week on Countryfile this evening, it seem as though these predictions could actually be conservative.

By Thursday 23rd February, much of the southernmost parts of the UK could be basking in temperatures of 16C, with 18 and 19 not ruled out. What's more, with the sun out there could be isolated microclimates that could climb higher still.

If this proves to be the case, I'd expect overwintering butterflies to be out en masse, so by this time next week the 'February Sightings' thread could well have gone into meltdown.

I can recall a few occasions in late February when we've experienced unusually mild days, but I don't think I can ever remember 18C quoted before, so dust yourselves down and be ready to get out and enjoy one of life's most pleasant aberrations - balmy weather in February.

Who knows, we may even be able to knock spots off Guy Padfield in a few days!

Re: Prepare yourselves for more extremes

Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 9:37 pm
by Susie
Yes, looks like we could have some balmy weather coming up later this week. With frogs in the pond and catkins already bursting on the sallow in my garden I can see that spring will arrive with a vengence.

February 14th 1999 had temperatures up in the mid 70s. I remember it well as we went for a picnic at Hampton Court with our toddler and new baby. :shock:

Re: Prepare yourselves for more extremes

Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 9:53 pm
by David M
Susie wrote:February 14th 1999 had temperatures up in the mid 70s.
Fair play. That's awesome memory!

Re: Prepare yourselves for more extremes

Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 9:59 pm
by MikeOxon
David M wrote:That's awesome memory!
Females remember Valentine's day for ever - especially if men forget it!

Mike

Re: Prepare yourselves for more extremes

Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 10:05 pm
by Susie
It wasn't so much that it was valentine's day but more that we were there with the new baby and able to sit on a rug on the ground with all the crocus out that I remember. It was such a lovely day!

Re: Prepare yourselves for more extremes

Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 10:07 pm
by David M
Susie wrote:It wasn't so much that it was valentine's day but more that we were there with the new baby and able to sit on a rug on the ground with all the crocus out that I remember. It was such a lovely day!
Don't believe you, Suze. :twisted:

Re: Prepare yourselves for more extremes

Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 10:10 pm
by Susie
With a new born and a very hyper toddler the last thing you think about is valentine's day other than it is very unusual to be picnicing! :lol:

Re: Prepare yourselves for more extremes

Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 10:26 pm
by David M
Susie wrote:With a new born and a very hyper toddler the last thing you think about is valentine's day other than it is very unusual to be picnicing! :lol:
I guess picnics in February are rather unusual.

Re: Prepare yourselves for more extremes

Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 10:59 pm
by millerd
Susie wrote:
February 14th 1999 had temperatures up in the mid 70s.
Unfortunately, I'm a bit of nerd as far as things meteorological are concerned - are you sure this wasn't 1998? There were three days at least when in warm sunshine 19 degrees was exceeded (13th, 14th and 15th February). 1999 looked somewhat unsettled.

http://www.ukweatherworld.co.uk/forum/i ... 1998-197c/

http://www.met.reading.ac.uk/~brugge/diary1999.html

There's a reference on the first link to three butterflies being seen, I notice.

Dave

Re: Prepare yourselves for more extremes

Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 11:02 pm
by Susie
Gosh, yes, you are right! It was 1998. Child number two was born in 1998 and number three in 1999. You'd think being their mum I'd remember these things. :lol:

Well done, Dave. :D

Re: Prepare yourselves for more extremes

Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 11:13 pm
by millerd
It's funny, Susie, but I remember it as being between number one son (born May 1997) and number two son (born May 1999). I pushed the former in his buggy around Leicester while wearing shorts and a t-shirt. Odd how you remember some stuff. I did have to check the year, mind :wink:

Re: Prepare yourselves for more extremes

Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 11:16 pm
by Susie
millerd wrote:It's funny, Susie, but I remember it as being between number one son (born May 1997) and number two son (born May 1999). I pushed the former in his buggy around Leicester while wearing shorts and a t-shirt. Odd how you remember some stuff. I did have to check the year, mind :wink:
Lol. Indeed. :D Between number one daughter being born in 1995 and number three daughter starting school 2003 most things are a blur to be honest so it is amazing I remember anything at all :lol: Hat's off to anyone who likes little children, I think they are hell on wheels. Fortunately they improve with age!

Anyway, back to the weather!

Re: Prepare yourselves for more extremes

Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 12:49 am
by Pawpawsaurus
David M wrote:By Thursday 23rd February, much of the southernmost parts of the UK could be basking in temperatures of 16C, with 18 and 19 not ruled out. What's more, with the sun out there could be isolated microclimates that could climb higher still.
I fully expect the coming week's predicted temperatures to be a blip, but (at the risk of sounding like a wet blanket) I for one sincerely hope that the spring of 2012 starts later and is wetter and cooler than that of 2011.

Water levels in the reservoirs of the SE are already at uncomfortably low levels, and unless there's significant rainfall soon we're at risk of the most serious drought since 1976. For those who don't remember it: it was bad.

Paul

Re: Prepare yourselves for more extremes

Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 11:59 am
by MikeOxon
Pawpawsaurus wrote:we're at risk of the most serious drought since 1976
Perhaps we should invest in a North-South water pipeline instead of high-speed rail - surely a lot cheaper and beneficial to more people.

Mike

Re: Prepare yourselves for more extremes

Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 4:14 pm
by David M
MikeOxon wrote:
Pawpawsaurus wrote:we're at risk of the most serious drought since 1976
Perhaps we should invest in a North-South water pipeline instead of high-speed rail - surely a lot cheaper and beneficial to more people.
...or even a West-East pipeline, as we in Wales have lakes full of the stuff!

Re: Prepare yourselves for more extremes

Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 4:31 pm
by dilettante
MikeOxon wrote:
Pawpawsaurus wrote:we're at risk of the most serious drought since 1976
Perhaps we should invest in a North-South water pipeline instead of high-speed rail - surely a lot cheaper and beneficial to more people.

Mike
See BBC News discucssion on this

Re: Prepare yourselves for more extremes

Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 7:35 pm
by David M
This was on BBC News tonight. Makes perfect sense, doesn't it? A small island nation where 50% of the land mass receives a surplus of rain and the other 50% a deficit.

Other countries must laugh loudly at our predicament. We are supposed to be one of the best organised nations in the world with an infrastructure second to none yet we can't guarantee water supplies to those living to the east of a line drawn from Hull to Bournemouth in spite of much of the area to the west of that line (the majority of the land mass) being deluged over and above what is required to meet the population's needs.

Laughable.

Re: Prepare yourselves for more extremes

Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 11:46 am
by Dave McCormick
currently 18.5C here, for start of March, feels more like July! Not that I mind the odd warm spell, supposed to get a bit cooler and rain over the next few days here. Petty I am busy later or this would have been perfect butterfly hunting weather. Why must the weather be like this when your busy and not so good when your not?