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Wisley "Butterflies in the Glasshouse"

Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 2:41 pm
by Pete Eeles
A friend pointed this out to me - should anyone want to brush up on their butterfly photography early next year:

http://www.rhs.org.uk/Gardens/Wisley/Wh ... utterflies

Cheers,

- Pete

Re: Wisley "Butterflies in the Glasshouse"

Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 8:50 pm
by Susie
Thanks for the reminder, Pete. I'll certainly be going again.

£50.00 to £60.00 for the butterfly photographic mornings! Shows what good value the UK Butts photographic forum is.

Re: Wisley "Butterflies in the Glasshouse"

Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 8:54 pm
by Pete Eeles
Susie wrote:Thanks for the reminder, Pete. I'll certainly be going again.

£50.00 to £60.00 for the butterfly photographic mornings! Shows what good value the UK Butts photographic forum is.
:lol: too right!

Cheers,

- Pete

Re: Wisley "Butterflies in the Glasshouse"

Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 9:50 pm
by Susie
Anyone going for the first time might want to give themselves a bit of extra time for their camera lense to unsteam when they first get into the glasshouse as it can be a problem.

Re: Wisley "Butterflies in the Glasshouse"

Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 11:54 pm
by Paul Wetton
Too right Susie.

Some butterfly houses have hot air blowers to remove the condensation from cold glass lenses to speed up the process.

Re: Wisley "Butterflies in the Glasshouse"

Posted: Sun Dec 26, 2010 12:04 pm
by Lee Hurrell
I'll be going again this year but earlier than last year. I went in the last few days and it was winding down.

It took about 10-15 minutes for my lens to de-mist!

Cheers

Lee

Re: Wisley "Butterflies in the Glasshouse"

Posted: Sun Dec 26, 2010 10:33 pm
by Susie
when I went last year they had had trouble with butterflies emerging, or rather lack of them, and it was a bit poor to be honest but at the same time lovely to be so warm and even see just a few of them flying. The year before I went at the start and it was excellent. I hope to go near the start this time.

Re: Wisley "Butterflies in the Glasshouse"

Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 4:57 pm
by Susie
I had a lovely time there today, it's well worth a visit. I plan to go back with my proper camera and get some nice shots later in the month.

Re: Wisley "Butterflies in the Glasshouse"

Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 11:43 am
by Lee Hurrell
RHS Wisley are this year once again running butterflies in the glass house, starting from the 14th January:

http://www.rhs.org.uk/Gardens/Wisley/Wh ... utterflies

:D

Cheers

Lee

Re: Wisley "Butterflies in the Glasshouse"

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 9:11 pm
by MikeOxon
This event is on from 14th January to 26th February, 2012. I went today and found it a most enjoyable way to spend a chilly January afternoon - in a tropical greenhouse with gorgeous tropical butterflies gliding around! Even on a Tuesday, it was quite busy and, judging by the crowd-control measures they have in place, it's probably hectic at weekends.

If you are planning to take photos, be prepared for the hot, humid, and crowded conditions. I kept my camera inside its padded case until I was inside the first of the greenhouses. Once inside, i fitted my macro lens and entered the tropical zone. The filter on the lens steamed up at once but, after I had wiped it a few times with a tissue, it acclimatised. Some people were finding it took half-an-hour with a cold camera, but I was up and running in about 5 minutes. I used my 90mm Tamron with a 1.4X converter to give a good working distance and moderate tele-effect for those butterflies that stayed high in the foliage. I would not advise changing lenses in the very humid environment as it would be recipe for condensation inside the camera - not a good idea! The light is not good under the dense foliage and I used my Nikon SB600 flashgun with a diffuser. I use manual exposure mode on the camera - in this case 1/180s and apertures between f/8 and f/16 depending on distance from the subject. In the fairly crowed conditions, I was tending to fall back on autofocus (which I usually avoid in macro work) and found the Tamron too slow for in-flight photos. Later I went back to the cooler house and changed to my 70-300VR, which has much faster AF but cannot focus closer than 1.5m. It proved useful for species that were settled higher in the canopy, but I did not get any satisfactory in-flight shots.

In all, I managed to get photos of 16 different species. I like large blue, iridescent butterflies, so the Morphos were favourites. As well as the adult butterflies, there are also displays of caterpillars and pupae. When photographing iridescent butterflies with flash, it is wise to take lots from different angles, since the results are rather unpredictable.
Blue Morpho - RHS Wisley<br />Nikon D300s with Tamron 90mm+1.4X TC - 1/180s@f/11 with flash
Blue Morpho - RHS Wisley
Nikon D300s with Tamron 90mm+1.4X TC - 1/180s@f/11 with flash
I can recommend this as good day out and, if you know an RHS member, they can take a guest free - so hassle any relevant friend! (my wife obliged in my case)

Mike

Re: Wisley "Butterflies in the Glasshouse"

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 3:15 pm
by Goldie M
When I was at Lancaster Butterfly House last week, i took this photo, I've tried to find out what it's name is lots of times, because when I was on the Norfolk B two years ago, I spotted it in the tree's, I assumed then it was an escapee, no one seemed to know what it was called, anyone Know :?:
All the Butterflies you've shown were also there at the Lancaster BH Mike, so if anyone fancies a visit to "Williamson's Park Lancaster" it's open all year round Goldie M :)

Re: Wisley "Butterflies in the Glasshouse"

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 3:39 pm
by Mark Colvin
Hi Goldie,

It looks like the Common Crow (Euploea core) to me.

Hope that helps.

Kind regards. Mark

Re: Wisley "Butterflies in the Glasshouse"

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 3:54 pm
by Goldie M
Thanks Mark, do you know where it's from :?: The names of some of the tropical Butterflies are astounding. "Common Crow"
and "Common Mormon" they don't do them justice really. I wonder who named them in the first place. Goldie :)

Re: Wisley "Butterflies in the Glasshouse"

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 3:54 pm
by Padfield
I agree. Here's one I photographed in 2010, in Mysore, southern India:

Image

I also saw them in Kolkata and believe they are found all over India.

Guy

Re: Wisley "Butterflies in the Glasshouse"

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 4:06 pm
by Goldie M
India, that's great Padfeid, Goldie :D

Re: Wisley "Butterflies in the Glasshouse"

Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 2:18 pm
by MikeOxon
Here's a selection of butterflies you can expect to see at Wisley. I described the methods I used for photography in a previous post.

These contact sheets were made using Irfan View software - very useful for collections of photos. Click to enlarge images.
Butterflies1.jpg
Great Mormon, Blue Morpho, Tree Nymph
Owl, Clipper, Great Mormon (fem)
Butterflies2.jpg
Autumn Leafwing, Diadem, Diadem (fem)
Great Mormon (fem), Tailed Jay, Malachite
Butterflies3.jpg
Malay Lacewing, Malay Lacewing upr, Blue Morpho
Blue Morpho, Common Mormon, Indian Leafwing
Butterflies4.jpg
African Swallowtail, Pupae cage, Pink Rose
caterpillars and pupae

All my i.d's are from the 'Spotter Guide' available at the display. Any corrections or additions will be welcome!
EDIT - i.d's updated to reflect following comments, gratefully received.

Mike

Re: Wisley "Butterflies in the Glasshouse"

Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 2:53 pm
by ChrisC
i went last year and it was a great place to try to get to grips with my new camera. i was even adventurous enough to have a go at one of the swallowtails hovering over one of the bushes, nippy little beggars. this was the best effort and as it was my first time out i was really quite pleased. it has been cropped but not by much.
wis.jpg

Re: Wisley "Butterflies in the Glasshouse"

Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 4:51 pm
by Mark Colvin
Hi Mike,

Nice pictures. I trust you enjoyed your visit as much as I did?

You asked for comments on the IDs.

I think you are correct on your first group of six with the exception of the bottom right, which you have down as an Asian Swallowtail. I think this is actually a female Great Mormon, a species that is sexually dimorphic and has a number of different forms. Regarding your second set of pictures you have the bottom left identified as a Scarlet Swallowtail. I think this is incorrect and once again should read female Great Mormon. Regarding the top right image I’m not sure and can’t say I saw one when I visited. If you can send me a high-resolution image(s), including an underside shot if possible, I may be able to help further. I agree with your third and fourth sets.

To confuse you even more the following are all Papilio memnon.

http://en.butterflycorner.net/Papilio-m ... 248.0.html

I hope this helps?

Kind regards. Mark

Re: Wisley "Butterflies in the Glasshouse"

Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 5:36 pm
by Padfield
I think the 'no ID' one is a form of Hypolimnas bolina - another very variable butterfly. The spotless body certainly suggests Hypolimnas rather than any of the Danaids this group mimics.

Guy

Re: Wisley "Butterflies in the Glasshouse"

Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 5:52 pm
by Mark Colvin
Hi Mike,

I agree with Guy.
padfield wrote:I think the 'no ID' one is a form of Hypolimnas bolina - another very variable butterfly.
The male of Hypolimnas bolina is pictured top centre in your second set of images, the query picture being the female.

Kind regards. Mark