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Trouble with a Skipper

Posted: Sun Jul 09, 2006 10:58 am
by Devs2007
Hi,
Would anyone be able to confirm, for this beginnner, that I've got these right. All taken on a visit to Amberley, West Sussex.....

Comma
Image

Gatekeeper
Image

Ringlet
Image

....and the Skipper, not sure if it's a large or small. How would I tell without the other to compare it to? :wink:
Image

Thanks for any assistance.

Posted: Sun Jul 09, 2006 4:24 pm
by Andrew Cunningham
First three are correct.

I reckon the skipper is a Small Skipper but never actually seen one so hopefully someone with more experience will come along and comment.

Small Skipper

Posted: Sun Jul 09, 2006 4:47 pm
by COLIN BAKER
Would tend to agree, its a Small Skipper.
The Outer margin on the forewing (LH side of photo)tends to be black and not diffused which says its not an Essex Skipper also the antenna is not as dipped in black paint which backs this up.
The sex band also on the forewing can just be seen as thin and not as the Large Skipper which is thick and black.
Two other markins to differentiate from Large Skipper is the lack of faint spots on the underside and colouration of orange, as opposed to orange near the abdomen and browner towards the outer edges of the forewing, in the Large Skipper.
Bit of a mouthful but hope it helps.
Best to look at specimen photos on:-
http://www.ukbutterflies.co.uk/species. ... %20Skipper
http://www.ukbutterflies.co.uk/species. ... %20Skipper &
http://www.ukbutterflies.co.uk/species. ... %20Skipper

Cheers

Colin

Struggling with a Skipper

Posted: Sun Jul 09, 2006 5:13 pm
by Guest
Thanks gents. Very useful pointers, I'll bear them in mind for the future. I suppose it'll help to get out there and find me a Large Skipper !
Thanks again.

Posted: Sun Jul 09, 2006 10:08 pm
by Andrew Cunningham
Thanks for that summary Colin.

Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 2:32 pm
by Guest
How big is Essex skipper in comparison to the small and large skipper?

Thanks regards Dave

Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 12:20 am
by eccles
The essex is similar in size to the small.
Further idents I think are:
When at rest, skippers often tuck the forewing back so the rear wing is in front. There's a thick black/dark brown leading edge to this rear wing on the small, and this leading edge is diffuse/broken on the essex. This shows up quite well on the UK Butterflies image pages.
The male sex brand marks on the forewings are much less prominent on the essex. Obviously not much use if you have a female.

Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 9:59 am
by Guest
Thanks eccles.
I believe all 3 are in my area. So I need to keep an eye out to get them ID correctly.