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ID request re Sweden
Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 9:02 pm
by Paulcrook
Copy of previous posting from the ID forum. Anyone any ideas or suggestions.
These are not good pictures. All were taken from a train window in Sweden (!). If anyone can hazard a guess at what they are of I would be very grateful, thanks.
Apologies for the pictures and the potential problems seeing what the pictures are of.
Thanks as always
All the best
Paul
Re: ID request re Sweden
Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 6:53 am
by Mikhail
I think the blues are Amanda's, sitting among the larval foodplant. I hesitate to guess at the fritillaries, but possibly Lesser Marbled.
Misha
Re: ID request re Sweden
Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 7:28 am
by JKT
I think the third blue is female P. icarus. Can't say anything about the frits.
Re: ID request re Sweden
Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 3:03 pm
by Mikhail
The female looks like f.isias of amanda to me. Can't be certain though. Have a look at Tolman and Lewington plate 32.
Misha
Re: ID request re Sweden
Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 4:03 pm
by JKT
True enough. It could well be that. I keep forgetting it as I have never (knowingly) seen one.
Re: ID request re Sweden
Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 4:08 pm
by Zonda
hmmm! I'm such a novice, but i can see Tufted vetch.
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Re: ID request re Sweden
Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 6:03 pm
by Padfield
Pretty good pictures from a train window!!
I'm very confident the amandus ID is correct - that was certainly the first (and only) thing that sprang into my mind on seeing the first two pictures. The third blue is not a form I'm familiar with, but the fact it looked so weird to me supports the idea it's a nordic speciality.
I also agree with the lesser marbled ID, though with less confidence. I don't think it's Clossiana, and of the Brenthis, ino is easily the most likely. Lesser marbled fritillary is nearly always found near stands of meadowsweet, a conspicuous plant with its soft white flowers even when viewed from a train. It is also normally found near water, or at least in damp meadows. Does that match the area the train was passing through?
Guy
Re: ID request re Sweden
Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 6:12 am
by JKT
padfield wrote:I don't think it's Clossiana, and of the Brenthis, ino is easily the most likely.
That is also the only species of that genus found in Sweden...
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Re: ID request re Sweden
Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 11:11 pm
by Paulcrook
Many thanks for the help once again. The pictures I asked about were all taken through a closed train window when it broke down on its way out of Stockholm. We had to disembark for 1/2 hour soon afterwards. I couldn't find these one to photograph again but did find a Ringlet and a Large Skipper plus this one which I am sure is a Pearly Heath.
All the best
Paul
Re: ID request re Sweden
Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 8:31 am
by Denise
Hi Paul,
Looks like Pearly Heath to me.
Denise