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'I will follow him...'

Posted: Sun May 03, 2009 6:36 pm
by Padfield
You have to hope the leader knows where he/she is going!

http://www.guypadfield.com/movies/procession091.wmv

Guy

Re: 'I will follow him...'

Posted: Sun May 03, 2009 7:34 pm
by Denise
I counted 48 cats! I hope that they found somewhere safe to go and feed.
Please excuse my ignorance, but what species are they? and is this behaviour normal?
Denise

Re: 'I will follow him...'

Posted: Sun May 03, 2009 7:39 pm
by Dave McCormick
Quick March! :lol: Must have been cool to see something like that. I tried counting them and got near 50 of them, now thats a long line. Are those Pine or Oak processonary moth caterpillar? Don't they go along eating foodplants they find in their path and move on?

Re: 'I will follow him...'

Posted: Sun May 03, 2009 7:50 pm
by Padfield
Hi Dave. I'm pretty sure these are pine processionaries, though I'm not too good with moths. See http://web.cortland.edu/fitzgerald/Pine ... onary.html.

I enjoyed your orange tip video, by the way.

Guy

Re: 'I will follow him...'

Posted: Sun May 03, 2009 7:52 pm
by Padfield
Sorry, Denise - I didn't see you had replied too. But I think I've answered your question.

I wondered if anyone would count them for me. Thanks!

Guy

Re: 'I will follow him...'

Posted: Sun May 03, 2009 7:57 pm
by Dave McCormick
I thought it was pine processonary. And thanks guy about Orange-Tip video

Re: 'I will follow him...'

Posted: Tue May 05, 2009 3:02 pm
by Sylvie_h
Hi Guy,

You have brought back some memories of a few years back now when I saw a long chain of pine processionaries crossing a forest path somewhere in the South of France. I had counted roughly 50 caterpillars (same number as in your video), really amazing!!
I wonder whether the number of cats is always roughly the same. I guess there is safety in numbers!! Thanks for sharing this with us!
Sylvie

Re: 'I will follow him...'

Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 8:08 am
by FISHiEE
Bit of a bugger if the leader stumbles across some kind of predatory bird... the bird can just lay there beak open and the caterpillars will just walk on in! :)

Re: 'I will follow him...'

Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 2:14 pm
by Dave McCormick
FISHiEE wrote:Bit of a bugger if the leader stumbles across some kind of predatory bird... the bird can just lay there beak open and the caterpillars will just walk on in! :)
Yeah, but don't those caterpillars have stinging hairs? I know the Oak processonary caterpillar hairs can be irritant if they touch your skin

Re: 'I will follow him...'

Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 6:12 pm
by Padfield
Dave McCormick wrote: Yeah, but don't those caterpillars have stinging hairs? I know the Oak processonary caterpillar hairs can be irritant if they touch your skin
In nature, where there's a defence, there's a counter-defence, and quite often a counter-counter-defence &c.!! I'm sure something can eat pine processionaries, even though, as you say, they are defended by irritant hairs.

Guy

Re: 'I will follow him...'

Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 7:40 pm
by Gruditch
Rather than safety in numbers, I think those little fellas are trying to kid potential predators, into thinking they are something a lot larger.

Gruditch

Re: 'I will follow him...'

Posted: Thu May 07, 2009 6:16 am
by Chris
padfield wrote:In nature, where there's a defence, there's a counter-defence, and quite often a counter-counter-defence &c.!! I'm sure something can eat pine processionaries, even though, as you say, they are defended by irritant hairs.
I believe cuckoos specialise in eating caterpillars that other birds would otherwise ignore... and the hairs are no defence against ants, who simply remove them!

Re: 'I will follow him...'

Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 7:55 am
by Trev Sawyer
A lepidopterist friend of mine tells me that J.H.Fabre once described some classic experiments with processionary caterpillars where they were encouraged onto the rim of a circular pot... They went round and round for days :shock: ! Seems a bit cruel today, but I suppose it shows how strong the following instinct was.
Also, apart from a few species of fungi and parasitic wasps, one of the main natural predators of these caterpillars in their normal range are Hoopoes.
Trev