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Sony 70-400mm G lens - First impressions

Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 9:49 am
by eccles
After looking enviously at Xmilehigh's Sony 70-400mm zoom for a few weeks, I made the fatal mistake of asking him if I could try it. I fired off a couple of shots of great crested grebes at Chew Valley Lake, looked at them later on the PC screen and knew that I was doomed as the results were superb. Last Monday I ordered one by phone from Camera World, asking for it to be delivered on Wednesday which they were happy to do. At £1038 including postage it ain't cheap, but the price is comparable to equivalent lenses from Canon and Nikon.
The lens has a sonic wave autofocus drive (SSM) which is moderately, but not blazingly, fast. But it's quick enough to track birds in flight, is accurate, and very quiet. For someone used to older minolta screw drives, and some of the Sony rebadged lenses, it's a bit disconcerting at first as you expect to hear it as well as see it snapping into focus.
It's heavy, one of the heaviest zooms in its class, which is surprising since it doesn't have any IS/VR servos, relying on the Sony in-camera 'steady-shot' image stabilisation.
The colour of the lens, silver, has been a topic of much discussion on Alpha mount forums, with most people not liking it very much. Sony has apparently attempted to differentiate itself from Nikon (black) and Canon (cream). Unfortunately there was a period when Konika joined Minolta in producing very cheap plastic cameras and lenses. Although there were a few surprisingly good examples, many of these lenses were dreadful, and they were silver. Meanwhile, Minolta continued producing its superb G quality lenses which were white, and Sony's rebadges of these are still, wait for it, white!
The camera buying public are fickle, and this choice of colour may be a bit of a marketing cock-up by Sony, but it still appears to be one of Camera World's best sellers. Part of the reason for this is obvious: once you've got a Sony DSLR and you look around for a wildlife lens for it you find Sony's real achilles heel, and Gary's (Gruditch) past comments about the paucity of long lenses in Alpha mount are not without substance. Unless you go independent, there hasn't been a lot about at longer focal lengths. But the other reason is that this lens is astonishingly good at all apertures and focal lengths, and with recent price rises, by Sigma in particular, the Sony zoom is a no-brainer purchase.
You can stick a Sony 1.4x teleconverter on it to get 560mm focal length but it will switch to manual focus. However, a Sigma 1.4x EX teleconverter will also fit, and it'll autofocus, although it'll hunt in poor light. Preliminary results with my Sigma TC have been good with good centre resolution, although slipping a bit at the edges when at full aperture.
The zoom will focus down to less than 1.5m giving about 1:3 semi-macro ability at 400mm focal length, or around 1:2 with the TC attached.
Here's a couple of extreme examples showing the lens' versatility. Both were shot with the A700 camera without teleconverter or any other attachments. I used a monopod for both.

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Re: Sony 70-400mm G lens - First impressions

Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 7:27 pm
by Shirley Roulston
So, this is it, the new lens. The Orange Tip has a little face just like a bat, never seen one so close. Have fun with the lens :)
Shirley

Re: Sony 70-400mm G lens - First impressions

Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 8:56 am
by xmilehigh
Get's a thumbs up from me as well. Lens lust never had it myself :shock:

Re: Sony 70-400mm G lens - First impressions

Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 9:07 am
by eccles
Lens lust never had it myself
Lusting is a desire for something you don't have. You never give it time to develop. :D

Re: Sony 70-400mm G lens - First impressions

Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 5:55 am
by Gruditch
You can see now why the 100-400 IS, is so popular with Canon users. There has always been a big debate between the merits of the Bigma, and the 100-400. Having used both, I would say the 100-400 knocks spots of the Bigma.
I know Jerry had a Bigma, so what does he now think. :?:

BTW Eccles you shouldn't need a monopod, if it's like the 100-400 Dust pump, it's a mans lens, to handhold. :lol:

Gruditch

Re: Sony 70-400mm G lens - First impressions

Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 3:38 pm
by eccles
it's a mans lens, to handhold.
Changed your tune a bit haven't you? Mr Tripod-With-Everything. :)

Re: Sony 70-400mm G lens - First impressions

Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 3:48 pm
by Gruditch
No, :? I only use a tripod for macro work, or if I'm planning to do some slow exposures, otherwise I rarely use a tripod.

Gruditch

Re: Sony 70-400mm G lens - First impressions

Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 6:38 pm
by eccles
OK, I'll let you off. :D I'll readily admit that I'm Mr Puniverse when it comes to holding a 1.4Kg lump of a lens steady for any length of time, especially since the A700 is hardly a lightweight either. A monopod is useful just to rest between shots.

Re: Sony 70-400mm G lens - First impressions

Posted: Fri May 01, 2009 7:22 pm
by xmilehigh
Hmmm,

The Bigma, not a bad lens at all, can't hold a candle against the Sony 70-400mm G IMHO. It does however win hands down on weight :roll:

Pssst anyone need a Bigma :lol:

Re: Sony 70-400mm G lens - First impressions

Posted: Tue May 26, 2009 10:36 pm
by eccles
I lugged this lens around Shapwick Heath last weekend, and by the time I got back I knew I'd been carry it around. I've finally got around to processing the results from it, and quite simply, they are staggering. Every other shot I processed I was saying, OMG, I don't believe that I took these with a zoom. The detail looks like that from a macro. I lamented the loss of my Sigma 400mm telemacro through mechanical failure last year, but had I not broken it, I might never have bought this superb lens. Wide open or stopped down, at any zoom length, it is a phenomenal piece of glass. Quite frankly, there is nothing short of very expensive prime glass that will touch it, in any mount. I can even forgive Sony the silver finish...
Here's a 100% crop of a 12MP image from my A700. Click on the image to get the full 100% crop.
Note it is a backlit dragonfly from 10 or 15 feet away. It is a straight 100% crop with no additional processing or sharpening.
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This is the full frame original.
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and the final crop, about 1/4 frame.