Help with whites

Discussion forum for butterfly photography. You can also get your photos reviewed here!
Post Reply
User avatar
Dave McCormick
Posts: 2388
Joined: Fri Mar 16, 2007 8:46 pm
Location: Co Down, Northern Ireland
Contact:

Help with whites

Post by Dave McCormick »

What is the best way of taking a photo of a white butterfly, like a GV White or a Orange Tip, so they don't appear too bright? Found that problem today when taking photos of a GV white, you not see the dark markings on upperside well, just too bright white. Want to get my skills right this time, had a few good photos in past of whites, but most of these have been with my compact camera or darker marked individuals, more yellowish like second generations etc...
Cheers all,
My Website: My new website: http://daveslepidoptera.com/ - Last Update: 11/10/2011
My Nature videos: http://www.youtube.com/user/DynamixWarePro
User avatar
Pete Eeles
Administrator & Stock Contributor
Administrator & Stock Contributor
Posts: 6809
Joined: Tue Jan 17, 2006 6:10 pm
Location: Thatcham, Berkshire
Contact:

Re: Help with whites

Post by Pete Eeles »

Underexpose by between 1/3 and 2/3 of a stop. The resulting image will look dark, but will retain the detail. Then use software to bring the levels back up.

Works for me every time - I haven't ever had a burned out white since I started doing this.

Cheers,

- Pete
Life Cycles of British & Irish Butterflies: http://www.butterflylifecycles.com
British & Irish Butterflies Rarities: http://www.butterflyrarities.com
User avatar
Jack Harrison
Posts: 4640
Joined: Wed Jan 18, 2006 8:55 pm
Location: Nairn, Highland
Contact:

Re: Help with whites

Post by Jack Harrison »

I agree with Pete.

This subject was really tricky.
OT-Female.jpg
In this instance, I biased by a full -1. But inevitably when making such a big correction, the background is liable to be underexposed so when brightened afterwards with software, it might show a lot of noise.

I also adjust the shooting setting to give minimum contrast, ie, to give greatest “dynamic range” from shadows to highlights. More sophisticated cameras, eg some DSLRs can apparently do a superb job of preserving highlights and shadows.

Jack
User avatar
Dave McCormick
Posts: 2388
Joined: Fri Mar 16, 2007 8:46 pm
Location: Co Down, Northern Ireland
Contact:

Re: Help with whites

Post by Dave McCormick »

Thanks for the info. I was thinking along the same lines myself, but have only started seeing whites and wanted to get at least a good shot of one, going looking tomorrow as weather is supposed to stay good and warm.
Cheers all,
My Website: My new website: http://daveslepidoptera.com/ - Last Update: 11/10/2011
My Nature videos: http://www.youtube.com/user/DynamixWarePro
User avatar
eccles
Posts: 1562
Joined: Tue Jun 27, 2006 2:17 pm
Location: Longwell Green, Bristol

Re: Help with whites

Post by eccles »

If your camera can do it, shooting raw instead of jpegs will give you at least an f-stop extra dynamic range which could make or break a shot.
User avatar
Jack Harrison
Posts: 4640
Joined: Wed Jan 18, 2006 8:55 pm
Location: Nairn, Highland
Contact:

Re: Help with whites

Post by Jack Harrison »

Sounds good. I can add a hack (well, computer-literate son can) to use my A650 in raw.

"Miles, can you come here please! Job for you" Mind you, he hates doing anything connected with computers even though he is very, very good.

Jack
User avatar
Oy
Posts: 166
Joined: Mon Jul 17, 2006 7:49 am
Contact:

Re: Help with whites

Post by Oy »

Spot metering off the white can work too!

But I tend to just stick with my regular centre weightd and dail in -0.7 to -1ev
Take nothing but photographs. Leave nothing but footprints. Kill nothing but time.
User avatar
Jack Harrison
Posts: 4640
Joined: Wed Jan 18, 2006 8:55 pm
Location: Nairn, Highland
Contact:

Re: Help with whites

Post by Jack Harrison »

I can add a hack
Woudln't work with a card >4 Gb. Mine are 8.

Jack
Post Reply

Return to “Photography”