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Who can supply the butterflies specimens for me?

Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 4:18 am
by baobin
I need worldwide butterflies to make butterfly jewelry, I know there are some beautiful butterflies in UK, if anyone can supply them to me, please contact me at realnature88@gmail.com.
You can see our jewelry in Http://www.real-nature.net, then you will know I really want the butterfly.
Thanks.
wu wenbin

Re: Who can supply the butterflies specimens for me?

Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 6:31 am
by Gruditch
Hmm, are you asking for someone to kill British butterflies, then send them to you, so that you can turn then into pieces of jewelry. :?:

Gruditch

Re: Who can supply the butterflies specimens for me?

Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 8:01 am
by Shirley Roulston
Perhaps you like to ask the same question to the British Butterfly conservation Society, I'm sure they will give you an appropriate answer. This website and the B.B.C. is to preserve butterflies in the wild so everyone can enjoy them, NOT to preserve them under a piece of plastic. :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: Why did you put this question into the compeitions?

Re: Who can supply the butterflies specimens for me?

Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 8:18 am
by Denise
Words fail me. :twisted:
I ditto Shirley's remarks. If you really think anyone here (especially the ladies) would supply you with dead butterflies to make jewelry etc, you are mistaken.
I have looked at your site and am disgusted at the misuse of the insects.
I for one would never purchase or wear anything like this.
I am wondering how Butterfly Conservation would feel about this matter?

Re: Who can supply the butterflies specimens for me?

Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 1:25 pm
by Charles Nicol
why not make jewellery with pictures of the Dalai Lama instead ?

:wink:

Re: Who can supply the butterflies specimens for me?

Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 7:55 pm
by eccles
Apart from the legal aspects of exporting fauna from the UK, and importing it into China, the last place you should look is a website that is dedicated to the preservation of wildlife and its habitats. Try to adopt a more pantheistic attitude by growing small flowers yourself and preserve them into jewellery. Allow your local insects to pollenate your flowers for you to produce the next generation of seeds. You will then perhaps begin to appreciate what those insects can do for you, and why you shouldn't destroy them.

:lol: @Charles.

Re: Who can supply the butterflies specimens for me?

Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 2:50 am
by baobin
Sorry for the bad feeling I bring to you, I know many people don't like the way we treat the insects and butterflies, but also we do bring happy to many people, actually our main market of insects is teaching tools market. If we can reasoningly use the specimens to do good to people, I don't know if we are wrong. By the way, we only use the specimens in limit, maybe just 1 of 10000000, and some of them breeded by human,such as scorpion and some beetles.
I will delete the topic tomorrow, sorry again.

Re: Who can supply the butterflies specimens for me?

Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 11:02 am
by Dave McCormick
well what you could do, is do what Eccles said about the flowers as I am sure many would like that. And if you still want to do butterflies, get them from a butterfly farm. I am sure they would let you have the dead ones. Thats the only place I get mine from, a butterfly far not that far way from where I live. I'd never kill a live insect, especially not one taken from the wild. .It preserves species in wild by stooping collectors hunt them to extinction and you can still do what you want. If you know of any such places, you could ask them. Maybe you could branch out into seashells or something too as I know people would like them and I don't think they would be hard to come by

Re: Who can supply the butterflies specimens for me?

Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 12:27 pm
by FISHiEE
Yes butterfly farms would have an almost endless supply of perished specimens. I was at one in Stratford Upon Avon a few years back. They were selling the dead butterflies mounted in the shop there.

In a similar way people who rear butterflies in captivity (and I am sure several members do) would also have expired butterflies so in that sense it is perhaps not so crazy to put such a post on this forum, but maybe somewhere other than the competitions section.

Incidentally I attended a talk by a beetle recorder some years back, they set out traps at night in a similar way to mothers, only trouble is the beetles fall into water troughs and drown when they are caught. This is apparently quite normal and they guy didn't seem to have any issues with targeting sites for very rare species and catching and killing them in this way. In a lot of cases they have to actually disect the beetles to ID them - sometimes under microscope as some are only the size of a pin head.

Re: Who can supply the butterflies specimens for me?

Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 1:32 pm
by baobin
FISHiEE and Dave McCormick, thank you for your suggestions.
Yes, I am contact the farms in Australia and USA.And I am contacting one people in CANADA selling the butterflies to collectors, he said he have many wings(they don't need them anymore), can give me low prices. So I am wondering maybe more people have these wings, then we can use them to let people can enjoy the beauty of butterflies.

Re: Who can supply the butterflies specimens for me?

Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 1:57 pm
by eccles
Hmm, it seems we jumped the gun a bit, thinking that you wanted us to trap and sell wild specimens. Apologies, Wu.
You would perhaps get a more positive response if you were more clear in your requests and asked for expired captive butterflies, for which no one would be likely to object.
Regards,
eccles.

Re: Who can supply the butterflies specimens for me?

Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 2:49 pm
by Denise
My apologies also. I, like Eccles thought that you wanted us to kill wild butterflies for your business.
I have no problem with you using dead captive bred insects, although I must say, that all the dead ones that I have seen are in quite poor condition, and yours look to be in pristine condition, which led me to believe that they were being killed just after hatching.
Again, I'm sorry for the mix up.

Denise