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ID Please?

Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 7:16 pm
by jellyang
This little fellow was at Horsey Gap on the Norfolk coast today.
There were a few of them around but they didn't really open their wings , only to escape my camera lens!
What is it?
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Thanks

Angie

Re: ID Please?

Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 7:26 pm
by Chris
Small Copper I think, Angie

Regards, Chris

Re: ID Please?

Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 7:29 pm
by jellyang
Well I'm not sure as I have seen lots of small coppers but they never looked like this.
This one seemed slightly smaller & never opened its wings despite sunshine.

Anyone else think Small Copper??


Angie

Re: ID Please?

Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 7:31 pm
by roundwood123
Your Butterfly is a Small Copper and looking at my Collins Butterfly Guide it looks like L p polaris [ Arctic Fennoscandia ] but wait for the far more knowledgable as i am bound to have got it wrong. Steve

Re: ID Please?

Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 7:48 pm
by Pete Eeles
Definitely Small Copper and, given the location, ssp. eleus. There's a similar shot here:

http://www.ukbutterflies.co.uk/image.ph ... EARED}.jpg

The main difference seems to be the ground colour - your individual seems to be particularly pale. This could be the light, or the weather!

Cheers,

- Pete

Re: ID Please?

Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 7:55 pm
by roundwood123
roundwood123 wrote:Your Butterfly is a Small Copper and looking at my Collins Butterfly Guide it looks like L p polaris [ Arctic Fennoscandia ] but wait for the far more knowledgable as i am bound to have got it wrong. Steve
Told you :wink: I should stick to Moths.

Re: ID Please?

Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 8:11 pm
by jellyang
Small Copper it is then.
It was the pale colour what confused me :? Thats not hard to do !!

It did seem to behave different to my local Small Coppers, but I guess thats because he was having a day at the seaside :lol:

Thanks for all your help

Angie

Re: ID Please?

Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 9:32 pm
by Dave McCormick
While we are on subject of Small coppers, is this hibernica subspecies? It was found in a glasshouse in N.I. so I assume it is and it had the blue spots on upperside of ab caeruleopunctata as well. At first when I saw the above pics, I thought it was similar to it, but its not:

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Re: ID Please?

Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 9:36 pm
by Pete Eeles
Dave McCormick wrote:While we are on subject of Small coppers, is this hibernica subspecies? It was found in a glasshouse in N.I. so I assume it is and it had the blue spots on upperside of ab caeruleopunctata as well.
Hi Dave - yes, definitely hibernica. In fact, there's a general shortage of Irish subspecies shots on the species pages ... so if you'd like to donate shots such as these, I'm sure we'd all be appreciative!

Cheers,

- Pete

Re: ID Please?

Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 11:59 pm
by Dave McCormick
I e-mailed you some pics of the small copper, enjoy