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Japanese Blues....

Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 12:02 pm
by rezamink
Took these shots earlier this month in Tokyo hotel garden...

The Silver Studded Blue is subspecies 'micrargus', but I can't identify the other species.... can anyone help?
Unidentified Japanese Blue....
Unidentified Japanese Blue....
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Plebejus argus micrargus
Plebejus argus micrargus
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Re: Japanese Blues....

Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 1:12 pm
by Padfield
Try Zizeeria maha. This is quite a variable butterfly but some pictures I've found on the web look extremely like your butterfly. Here is one, for example:

Image

The copyright on that picture is not mine - the web page is http://www.asahi-net.or.jp/~jy4t-kmn/ly ... 7my08m.jpg

Guy

Re: Japanese Blues....

Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 9:46 pm
by rezamink
Thanks Guy for your help with this one....

I also found a really nice Skipper in the Hotel Garden which I think is Potanthus Flavum

Plus I found a 'Copper' which I believe is a small Copper (Lycaena phlaeas subspecies daimio), apparently this is the only species of 'Copper' in Japan.

Damian
Lycaena phlaeas subspecies daimio?
Lycaena phlaeas subspecies daimio?
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Potanthus Flavum?
Potanthus Flavum?
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Potanthus Flavum?<br />Potanthus Flavum<br />Potanthus Flavum
Potanthus Flavum?
Potanthus Flavum
Potanthus Flavum
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Re: Japanese Blues....

Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 7:21 am
by Padfield
My book doesn't have the Hesperiidae, but this looks very like web pictures of flavum. I'd say that was a correct id!.

Image
(http://www.aoi-hotyuuami.com/DSC_kimada ... i02271.jpg)

Guy

Re: Japanese Blues....

Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 11:11 am
by rezamink
Thanks again Guy for your help with the ID's...

Cheers

Damian

Re: Japanese Blues....

Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 6:45 am
by rezamink
I found this photo whilst looking through the Japanese 'Blues'.

It appears to be some sort of Holly Blue, however, there seems to be 4 or 5 species of 'Celastrina' in Japan....

Any idea's?

Thanks

Damian
JapanHollyBlue.jpg
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Re: Japanese Blues....

Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 10:08 am
by Padfield
As you know, I'm not knowledgeable about Japanese butterflies. But your picture does look good for the Japanese subspecies ladonides of C.argiolus:

http://www.pref.saitama.lg.jp/A09/BA30/ ... nides2.jpg

This list of Japanese butterflies (http://www004.upp.so-net.ne.jp/jamides/ ... Lycaenidae) gives 3 species as occurring, though there are several subspecies of sugitanii. The holly blue (argiolus) seems the commonest and that would be my default, since it looks right. What a pity we don't have any Japanese members!!

Guy

Re: Japanese Blues....

Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 10:59 am
by rezamink
Thanks Guy....

Oh well, quite a long way to go to get a photo of a 'Holly Blue'!!!!

Cheers

Damian