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Spain again
Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 1:35 pm
by Dave Mac
Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 3:27 pm
by Padfield
Where were these taken, more precisely?
When I saw the ringlet I immediately thought 'montana', but this doesn't fly in Spain. Very strange - it's perfect for montana! Given that it's not, how about pronoe? I've never seen the Pyrenean form of this species - we have something quite different in the Alps - but in the books it looks very like this one. It's certainly not one of the species I've seen in the Pyrenees, but I always go in July, before pronoe flies.
The blue is most probably common blue and the other Satyrid looks like a rather weary meadow brown.
Guy
Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 3:54 pm
by Dave Mac
They were in the Auiges Tortes National Park at about 2000 m. Hope this helps
Dave
Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 7:06 pm
by Padfield
Well, I settle by default on pronoe, though as I say I have no experience of this form. It is one of the later Erebia to emerge and I miss it when I go to Spain - and the Swiss form is completely different.
Obviously, an underside would settle the question, but I don't suppose your friend's wife happens to have a picture of that?
V6GTO does a lot of watching in Spain - what does he think?
Guy
Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 7:40 am
by Martin
padfield wrote:V6GTO does a lot of watching in Spain - what does he think?
V6GTO thinks he doesn't know enough about butterflies!
Martin.
Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 4:35 pm
by Padfield
I asked my friend Matt Rowlings to comment and whilst agreeing that the Erebia was probably
pronoe, he pointed out I had been too hasty on the other Satyrid, which is a female tree grayling,
Neohipparchia statilinus. He's right (
![Embarassed :oops:](./images/smilies/icon_redface.gif)
). Here is a photo of one I took just last year (in Switzerland):
Guy
Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 7:43 am
by Dave Mac
Thanks Padfield, I'm constantly surprised and grateful for your expertise
Dave
Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 11:20 am
by Padfield
Dave Mac wrote:Thanks Padfield, I'm constantly surprised and grateful for your expertise
Dave
Aw!!
That comment makes up for the fact I have had exactly two votes in all the 2007 monthly photo competitions!
Guy