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Parasites?

Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 10:08 pm
by Martin
Came across this Meadow Brown today...only got one decent shot before it scarpered. What is the general consensus of opinion on the red growths...parasites?

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Martin.

Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 10:16 pm
by Pete Eeles
Red Spider Mite.

Cheers,

- Pete

Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 11:46 am
by eccles
They are considered a horticultural pest but I think they're harmless to the insect host, just hitching a lift, I believe.

Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 5:47 pm
by Martin
I returned to the same site today and got a shot of a Common Blue with a load too...will post it up later.

Martin.

Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 6:54 pm
by Dave McCormick
This site does not seem a safe place for butterflies.

Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 7:21 pm
by Bryan H
You don't mean this site, Dave? :lol:

Bryan

Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 8:10 pm
by Martin
The Common Blue mentioned earlier...

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Martin.

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 2:13 pm
by Martin
Pete...I take it these are the eggs, they don't look much like spiders.

Martin.

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 2:44 pm
by Pete Eeles
They're mites - not spiders! Although they are arachnids! See:

http://www.pbase.com/wildhareuk/image/79873069

for a lovely photo :)

Cheers,

- Pete

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 5:07 pm
by Martin
But I see no legs :(
I'm getting conflicting opinions here...

http://phocus-on.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=3150

Martin.

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 5:55 pm
by Dave McCormick
Get loads of them where I am. They have to hatch from something right? Thats why you don't see legs. if they were hatched, the butterfly would not have ad long I think.

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 6:21 pm
by Pete Eeles
Dave McCormick wrote:They have to hatch from something right? Thats why you don't see legs.
I believe that you don't see legs because a) the mite is 0.5mm long and b) it's holding on! The eggs are laid on bark and plant debris, as far as I know, and the larvae that emerge eat healthy plants - which is why they're a pest in orchards and the horticultural trade.
Dave McCormick wrote:if they were hatched, the butterfly would not have ad long I think.

I think they're just hitching a ride :)

Cheers,

- Pete

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 8:36 pm
by Dave McCormick
Well, that could be true. Seen that with a bumble bee before.

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 9:11 pm
by Pete Eeles
If it's not, then the mites are laying eggs slightly larger than themselves :)

But I'm no mite expert and willing to be corrected, as ever!

Cheers,

- Pete

Parasites?

Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 8:59 pm
by Paul
Sorry Chaps,

I think they are ticks of some sort, they seem to be honing in on chinks in the exoskeleton to me, see what they did to this Bright Eyed Ringlet ( sorry about the quality :( )... i'm probably wrong, so shoot me down!

Paul
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Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 9:42 pm
by Padfield
Lafranchis 1 (his original book on the butterflies of France, Belgium and Luxemburg, which is definitely worth getting if you read French) says they are 'acariens', a group containing mites and ticks. On page 40 he writes (and I translate):

"Butterflies are host to several parasites. Small, red, spherical mites ('de petits acariens rouges et sphériques') attach themselves to the bodies of adults. Satyrids are sometimes infested with them. These parasites seem to annoy their hosts very little".

Voilà!

Guy

Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 6:16 am
by Gruditch
I got this real close up the other day. As the weather was as usual c**p, he was a bit dopey and got on my finger at one point. I suppose now, I should of had a better look at the red Mites, damn it :evil:

Gruditch
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Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 7:07 am
by Pete Eeles
After a little research, I've concluded that the mites are Trombidium breei (can't find a common name, but Red Velvet Mite is in the same family).

Red Spider Mite is Tetranychus urticae.

For some reason, everyone (I talk to anyway!) seems to think they're Red Spider Mite - when they're not!!!

Cheers,

- Pete

Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 8:47 am
by Dave McCormick
Here is a red spider mite and this was very tiny, so I did not belive it was one:

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I took this on a window and you could not see it on the window it was so tiny, unless you looked very close. So its not them.

Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 6:50 pm
by brianwaugh