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Children's Book

Posted: Sun Aug 11, 2024 1:13 pm
by Charles Nicol
at the local car boot sale this morning i was delighted to find a copy of "Peter's Butterfly Friends" for 50p.

this charming little book dates from 1947 and has many delightful illustrations. rather like the ladybird "what to look for" pictures.

you can see from this advert on ebay:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/226286207040

Charles

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Re: Children's Book

Posted: Sun Aug 11, 2024 2:54 pm
by Padfield
I think I have to find a copy of this for my collection ! It's beautifully written and really lovely.

It's interesting that almost all the butterflies (the exceptions being the undersides) are painted from collections, in the pinned position, as if that were what butterflies look like in nature ! The ladybird book, which I have (it was my first butterfly book), portrays at least some of the insects in more natural postures.

One of the paradoxes of today's youth is that we have never had a more environmentally conscious generation and at the same time, perhaps never had a generation more ignorant of natural history. It astounds me when I watch things like University Challenge, how many super-bright young things can't tell a blackbird from a raven or an ash from a sycamore. We desperately need the modern equivalent of Peter's Butterfly Friends !

Guy

Re: Children's Book

Posted: Sun Aug 11, 2024 7:41 pm
by David M
Padfield wrote: Sun Aug 11, 2024 2:54 pm...One of the paradoxes of today's youth is that we have never had a more environmentally conscious generation and at the same time, perhaps never had a generation more ignorant of natural history...
Ain't that the truth!

This, sadly, will feed through most negatively in 20+ years or so.

Glad I won't be here.

Re: Children's Book

Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2024 9:32 pm
by Charles Nicol
Padfield wrote: Sun Aug 11, 2024 2:54 pm I think I have to find a copy of this for my collection ! It's beautifully written and really lovely.

It's interesting that almost all the butterflies (the exceptions being the undersides) are painted from collections, in the pinned position, as if that were what butterflies look like in nature ! The ladybird book, which I have (it was my first butterfly book), portrays at least some of the insects in more natural postures.

One of the paradoxes of today's youth is that we have never had a more environmentally conscious generation and at the same time, perhaps never had a generation more ignorant of natural history. It astounds me when I watch things like University Challenge, how many super-bright young things can't tell a blackbird from a raven or an ash from a sycamore. We desperately need the modern equivalent of Peter's Butterfly Friends !

Guy
i was delighted to spot this at the CBS. it is available on Abebooks as well as ebay. there are several other books about Peter's natural history interests.... Peter's Insect Friends/Bird Friends etc.

young folk nowadays do not spend much time catching sticklebacks in jamjars like we did in the olden days :wink:

University Challenge has finally got under way today :D

Re: Children's Book

Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2024 8:53 am
by Jack Harrison
young folk nowadays do not spend much time catching sticklebacks in jamjars like we did in the olden days :wink:
Why bother? They can see them on their smartphones :evil:

Jack

Re: Children's Book

Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2024 1:40 pm
by Jack Harrison
I had a splendid education with Sticklebacks. One day, when I was aged about five, I made a bumper catch and I proudly took them home in a jam jar. Next morning, they were all dead.

With a bit of help from mum who, while not well educated (she left school at 15), was very smart. We realised that although fish live in water, they still need ‘air’ (oxygen) to breathe. I hadn’t known that, so unintentionally killed scores of Sticklebacks.

Jack

Re: Children's Book

Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2024 3:00 pm
by Roger Gibbons
Charles Nicol wrote: Mon Aug 12, 2024 9:32 pm University Challenge has finally got under way today :D
We are just catching up on the rounds that we recorded, just watched semi-final 1 from the last series.

As the rounds progress, the questions get harder and the knowledge of the contestants is just mind-blowing.

There was one question on a classical music piece which they failed to get right - it was by one of the great unknown composers, Aram Khachaturian. It was the only question we knew that they didn't, which in itself was amazing.

Guy, do you recall the conversation we had while going up a rack and pinion railway (to Bretaye?) and I think you said you had not heard of him?

Roger

Re: Children's Book

Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2024 9:27 pm
by Charles Nicol
Roger Gibbons wrote: Thu Aug 15, 2024 3:00 pm
Charles Nicol wrote: Mon Aug 12, 2024 9:32 pm University Challenge has finally got under way today :D
We are just catching up on the rounds that we recorded, just watched semi-final 1 from the last series.

As the rounds progress, the questions get harder and the knowledge of the contestants is just mind-blowing.

There was one question on a classical music piece which they failed to get right - it was by one of the great unknown composers, Aram Khachaturian. It was the only question we knew that they didn't, which in itself was amazing.

Guy, do you recall the conversation we had while going up a rack and pinion railway (to Bretaye?) and I think you said you had not heard of him?

Roger
Mr Khachaturian is best known for the theme music to the Onedin ( or One Din ) Line.... you know... Dur Dur Dum, Dur Dur Dum, Dur Dur Dum Da Diddy Dum Dum...

Regarding UC perhaps you remember the University Moth Challenge from a few years ago ?
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Re: Children's Book

Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2024 9:28 pm
by Charles Nicol
Jack Harrison wrote: Thu Aug 15, 2024 1:40 pm I had a splendid education with Sticklebacks. One day, when I was aged about five, I made a bumper catch and I proudly took them home in a jam jar. Next morning, they were all dead.

With a bit of help from mum who, while not well educated (she left school at 15), was very smart. We realised that although fish live in water, they still need ‘air’ (oxygen) to breathe. I hadn’t known that, so unintentionally killed scores of Sticklebacks.

Jack
sigh

Re: Children's Book

Posted: Tue Aug 20, 2024 9:34 am
by Jack Harrison
But think positively, Charles.  Had it not been for my efforts, instead of Cod and Chip, it might be Stickleback and Chips today. 

Google had this to say:

"Why are sticklebacks hard to eat?"

"The spines can be raised and locked into position in a highly effective defence against predators like the kingfisher, making a stickleback impossible to swallow."

Jack

Re: Children's Book

Posted: Tue Aug 20, 2024 6:52 pm
by Padfield
Roger Gibbons wrote: Thu Aug 15, 2024 3:00 pm There was one question on a classical music piece which they failed to get right - it was by one of the great unknown composers, Aram Khachaturian. It was the only question we knew that they didn't, which in itself was amazing.

Guy, do you recall the conversation we had while going up a rack and pinion railway (to Bretaye?) and I think you said you had not heard of him?

Roger
I'm truly flattered my admission of ignorance made such an impression on you, Roger! :D I remember that trip to Bretaye. We took a walk along a cow track where various Erebia come to take minerals - and I think we failed to see water ringlet ... It's a late species there. We did see a stoat among the rocks, though.

Guy

Re: Children's Book

Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2024 8:36 am
by Charles Nicol
Jack Harrison wrote: Tue Aug 20, 2024 9:34 am But think positively, Charles.  Had it not been for my efforts, instead of Cod and Chip, it might be Stickleback and Chips today. 

Google had this to say:

"Why are sticklebacks hard to eat?"

"The spines can be raised and locked into position in a highly effective defence against predators like the kingfisher, making a stickleback impossible to swallow."

Jack
hmmm that does not seem to have deterred the plucky Portuguese....
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:lol:

Re: Children's Book

Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2024 11:22 am
by Roger Gibbons
Padfield wrote: Tue Aug 20, 2024 6:52 pm I'm truly flattered my admission of ignorance made such an impression on you, Roger! :D I remember that trip to Bretaye. We took a walk along a cow track where various Erebia come to take minerals - and I think we failed to see water ringlet ... It's a late species there. We did see a stoat among the rocks, though.
Indeed it did, Guy. Subjects on which you are not exceptionally knowledgable are as rare as my photos of Water Ringlet. :D
Roger

Re: Children's Book

Posted: Thu Aug 22, 2024 1:41 pm
by Medard
Sticklebacks

The Little Grebe doesn't seem to pass up the chance of a meal .
A dainty little bird, I've spent hours watching these cute little characters fishing, they are great fun to watch.

Little Grebe
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