Gatekeeper Variant.
Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2023 11:01 am
Is this my first variant male Gatekeeper please?
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Gatekeeper Variant.
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Re: Gatekeeper Variant.
Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2023 8:39 pm
OK, so I learn there are aberrations with Gatekeepers, but it would have been good for one of the 35 viewers of this post to have told me so. But thanks anyway!
Re: Gatekeeper Variant.
Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2023 5:18 am
They look pretty normal to me?
Re: Gatekeeper Variant.
Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2023 6:01 am
Me too...that's why I didn't say anything.
Re: Gatekeeper Variant.
Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2023 6:10 pm
Likewise.
Gatekeepers display a lot of variation, so if you go out and photograph a random series of a dozen males you will find that probably you have no two that match. They fade a bit with age and wear too, giving further variability. Like many species, there are some extreme variations - with multiple extra spots for example. Some of these (especially recurring ones) the somewhat obsessive Victorian collectors decided to call "aberrations", but most (including the two above) are probably within normal variation.
Dave
Gatekeepers display a lot of variation, so if you go out and photograph a random series of a dozen males you will find that probably you have no two that match. They fade a bit with age and wear too, giving further variability. Like many species, there are some extreme variations - with multiple extra spots for example. Some of these (especially recurring ones) the somewhat obsessive Victorian collectors decided to call "aberrations", but most (including the two above) are probably within normal variation.
Dave
Re: Gatekeeper Variant.
Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2023 12:34 pm
Thanks for your responses, they are appreciated. It's the first time I've seen two male Gatekeepers together, and the variation in colour has never registered with me otherwise when seen in singles. Thanks in particular to 'millerd', the clarity in your response was helpful.
Re: Gatekeeper Variant.
Posted: Sun Jul 23, 2023 7:50 am
Not just the Victorians, going by some of the posts I see on various Facebook groups, there are still some who get obsessive over every slight difference, most of which fall well within normal variation.millerd wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 6:10 pm Likewise.
Gatekeepers display a lot of variation, so if you go out and photograph a random series of a dozen males you will find that probably you have no two that match. They fade a bit with age and wear too, giving further variability. Like many species, there are some extreme variations - with multiple extra spots for example. Some of these (especially recurring ones) the somewhat obsessive Victorian collectors decided to call "aberrations", but most (including the two above) are probably within normal variation.
Dave
Cheers,
Neil.
Re: Gatekeeper Variant.
Posted: Sun Jul 23, 2023 7:27 pm
Ah, well - I don't use Facebook so haven't encountered this!Neil Freeman wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2023 7:50 am
Not just the Victorians, going by some of the posts I see on various Facebook groups, there are still some who get obsessive over every slight difference, most of which fall well within normal variation.
Cheers,
Neil.
From what I'm told it would likely annoy me, so I shall continue to avoid the platform. It seems you have to wade through a lot of nonsense to uncover anything useful.Cheers,
Dave
Re: Gatekeeper Variant.
Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2023 8:30 am
Yes indeed. I am a member of a couple of closed local groups (you have to apply and be accepted by a group moderator.) which are good, but the larger open groups can be full of some real nonsense. While I try and limit my time on these open groups, sometimes I cannot help myself in looking to see what the latest claptrap is.
Cheers,
Neil.