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UK Red Admiral Life Cycles
Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2022 8:35 pm
by PhilBJohnson
I thought that a Red Admiral species might life cycle through a mild British winter, at a slower life cycle speed (because of lower temperatures) at whatever metamorphic state it is in (or just butterflies and larvae, or butterfly pupae and larvae.
It was thought that the adult butterfly, just had it’s daily routines slowed down and roosted for longer periods, unlike Peacock & Small tortoiseshell butterflies.
Re: UK Red Admiral Life Cycles
Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2022 9:46 pm
by Vince Massimo
You are on the right track, Philip. Under certain conditions, adults can over-winter, whilst some eggs and larvae and can also get through by developing at a significantly slower rate. However, I don't think pupae can survive for the whole winter.
viewtopic.php?f=37&t=5672
Vince
Re: UK Red Admiral Life Cycles
Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2022 2:55 am
by PhilBJohnson
Thanks Vince (looking back), (and Sorry Vince, looking forward, this post has been edited, to help make question clearer, in what I was meaning to ask).
Did "Not a proper hibernation" have meant, that a maximum butterfly roosting length, during inclement weather, might have been 2-3 weeks?
Red Admiral butterfly, micro-climatic, low temperature tolerance, might have been ºC higher than a Peacock butterfly, but ºC lower, than a North African Painted Lady progeny (which global species distribution range, might have extended further south, in hotter climates).
Re: UK Red Admiral Life Cycles
Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2022 8:50 pm
by Vince Massimo
Hi Philip, if I understand your question correctly, unlike our regular hibernating species, the Red Admiral, Painted Lady and Clouded Yellow are not equipped to fully hibernate as adults, so they should migrate south at the end of the season to their respective winter breeding grounds. However, some may leave it too late and get stranded, so have to take their chances with the British winter. Their physiologies are not adapted to spending a long period in a fully dormant state or coping with low temperatures. Of these, the Red Admiral seems to be able to tolerate mild winter conditions in sheltered locations better than the other two species and so is able to "overwinter" more successfully. The best example I have been able to find of this is from Paul Harfield, who reported on two Red Admirals roosting in his garden over the winter of 2018/2019 - one for 33 days and the other for 92 days (27th October 2018 to 27th January 2019).
The full report is contained in the two pages of this topic
https://www.ukbutterflies.co.uk/phpBB/v ... f=8&t=9984
This subject has fascinated me for many years and merits further study.
Vince
Re: UK Red Admiral Life Cycles
Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2022 10:18 am
by Vince Massimo
Hi Philip, I have now updated my reply following further investigation.
Vince