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ID request Swiss Erebia
Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2022 9:58 am
by Kip
I am just back from the Haute Savoie and ventured into Switzerland occasionally. I took this photo on 8th August at the Barrage de la Grande Dixence, 2360 m, in the company of
tyndarus - my query is... could this be
mnestra, or possibly
pharte or is it more likely a spotless
tyndarus....
Re: ID request Swiss Erebia
Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2022 10:29 am
by Roger Gibbons
It looks brassy and the red post-discal band looks to be the right shape for
tyndarus, so that looks the percentage shot even in spite of the absence of ocelli.
I have seen
tyndarus with very small ocelli:
https://www.butterfliesoffrance.com/htm ... nd_22Jul10_
So yours, Kip, is not so far removed.
I have heard it said that species of brassy ringlet do not fly together and if that is true, then I think you are sufficiently east to be in
tyndarus rather than
cassioides territory.
Guy would know, so maybe he will pick up this thread.
Roger
Re: ID request Swiss Erebia
Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2022 11:10 am
by Kip
Thanks Roger,
I think that's exactly what Guy will say.. lots of other tyndarus there, so it was the Brassy on the site, and the orange markings don't really fit mnestra, request was more for confirmation.... interesting individual though. Love your photos, as always
Paul
Re: ID request Swiss Erebia
Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2022 2:09 pm
by Kip
I would also like an opinion on this one.... I think it is consistent with
lycaon, Dusky Meadow Brown, taken at 1950m at Barage d'Emmoson. It didn't behave quite like
jurtina and never settled wings open...
Re: ID request Swiss Erebia
Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2022 2:45 pm
by Roger Gibbons
I would think this is almost certainly lycaon.
Roger
Re: ID request Swiss Erebia
Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2022 6:55 pm
by Kip
Brilliant... a second new species photographed whilst away, pronoe being the other one.