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Ringlets France - ID confirmation needed
Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2020 12:25 pm
by Sylvie_h
Hi,
Can anybody help me with the identification of these 2 butterflies ?
Sorry about the quality of the photos, I had to do a lot of cropping to be able to add them to this thread. Both pictures are from a scan of a slide.
First image 201 taken in Haute Savoie - 1800m - I think this could be a large ringlet but not sure...
Second image 202 taken in the French Jura - No idea what this one is.... Not even sure it is a ringlet …
Thanks a lot,
Sylvie
Re: Ringlets France - ID confirmation needed
Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2020 12:27 pm
by Sylvie_h
Sorry something went wrong,
Here is the second picture … The one I think is Large ringlet.
Re: Ringlets France - ID confirmation needed
Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2020 1:52 pm
by bugboy
The one in the first post is a Ringlet
Aphantopus hyperantus, ab.
areta. The second one could be a Piedmont Ringlet
Erebia meolans but I'm far from an expert on European butterflies and I'd wait for the exports to confirm it's true identity
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Re: Ringlets France - ID confirmation needed
Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2020 3:42 pm
by petesmith
Second one looks like a male Scotch Argus to me.
Re: Ringlets France - ID confirmation needed
Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2020 4:10 pm
by Roger Gibbons
I agree with Pete.
Roger
Re: Ringlets France - ID confirmation needed
Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2020 7:11 pm
by David M
D'accord. 'Frange pie' insuffisante pour être euryale.
Re: Ringlets France - ID confirmation needed
Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2020 9:08 pm
by Padfield
I thought
arete at first for the top one too, but the spots looked wrong. There is another aberration,
centrifera, that seems closer.
See:
http://www.britishbutterflyaberrations. ... berrations
Guy
Re: Ringlets France - ID confirmation needed
Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2020 10:15 am
by Medard
La Chapelle-des-Bois, Doubs.
This Ringlet (aphantopus hyperantus arete) photo was taken at La Chapelle-des-Bois, Doubs 2018, no great distance from the Jura, France, it may be of interest.
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- Ringlet (aphantopus hyperantus arete).
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- Ringlet (aphantopus hyperantus arete).
Found close to this grim reminder that the plauge virus visited the village in 1639., take care everyone.
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- La Chapelle-des-Bois, Doubs.
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- La Chapelle-des-Bois, Doubs.
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Re: Ringlets France - ID confirmation needed
Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2020 1:30 pm
by Sylvie_h
Thank you All for your help with ID.
I would have never guessed it was a Ringlet (looking at the website that you have provided Guy, I did not know there were so many forms of Ringlet), so I have learned something. Thank you.
I will go with Scotch Argus for the second one, I don't understand why I did not manage to identify this specimen as such...Some more work needed here I think.
Medard, it is quite incredible to know that some people were buried there in this field back in 1639 because of the plague... very sad ! Now we have COVID …
Sylvie
Re: Ringlets France - ID confirmation needed
Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2020 6:04 pm
by David M
That's quite a sobering signpost, Jim, although I must say it looks to be a very inviting meadow.