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Re: June 2009 Sightings

Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 7:33 pm
by eccles
No problem Denise. Nice pic. :)

Further, here's two pics of one of those ambiguous butterflies.

This is a reasonable guide on size as it's settled on plantain. It was maybe a little bigger than an average common blue but nowhere near as big as a large blue. Unfortunately I didn't get an upper of this individual.
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This is the same individual. The shot is a bit soft but the wingtip is a little crooked, presumably after recent emergence and shows black bordering where a small part of the upperside can be seen. I suspect this is one of eight or nine across the slope that looked a bit 'odd', and may be what was seen by the person who reported seeing them previously.
Any suggestions of what we actually saw?

Re: June 2009 Sightings

Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 7:45 pm
by Denise
And a proper one that we saw today. :)
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Denise

Re: June 2009 Sightings

Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 7:53 pm
by eccles
A good comparison. They do look very similar except for wingsize. The smaller butterflies had a different flight pattern and general appearance to common blue. They were also a damn sight harder to follow than CB.

Re: June 2009 Sightings

Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 8:03 pm
by Jack Harrison
Heath Fritillary habitat, Hockley Wood Essex, shows the amount of management (coppicing) work that is necessary.

Jack

Re: June 2009 Sightings

Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 8:31 pm
by owen figgis
The fishing has been very poor recently so I have spent more time butterfly hunting than usual.
Today I started at an area of cleared woodland near Dalbeatie and saw several fritillaries, pearl borders or S.P.B's, one dark green, large skipper, small copper, small heath, green veined white, painted lady and wall.
Flushed with my success I then checked out an old quarry but there was very little to see there.
In the afternoon I got on my mountain bike and took the seven stanes trail hopeing to spot a dingy skipper. There were lots of butterflies on the south facing hill sides including two dingys and loads more frits.

Owen

Owen
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Re: June 2009 Sightings

Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 8:40 pm
by Pete Eeles
eccles wrote:Any suggestions of what we actually saw?
Definitely a Large Blue. I can only guess that, like many species, their food supply "dried up" while in their last instar. They were at least able to pupate - resulting in under-nourished but viable adults whose offspring will, hopefully, have more-plentiful supplies of food.

Cheers,

- Pete

Re: June 2009 Sightings

Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 8:45 pm
by The Gatekeeper
First 3 Meadow Browns of the year today in East Dorset.
No sign of SS Blues yet though.

Re: June 2009 Sightings

Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 8:57 pm
by Dave McCormick
1 Painted Lady, 2 small whites and this unfourtinate Small Tortoiseshell:

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It was in an ants nest and it looked worn. Sad really, one onf the only few Small Tortoiseshells I have seen this year at all.

Re: June 2009 Sightings

Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 10:08 pm
by Matsukaze
Hi Wiccaman,

I don't suppose you have a photo of your Collard Hill Small Blue? Somerset branch would be very interested in the record, as Small Blue hasn't been recorded from the Poldens for many years. I'm not even sure if its foodplant still occurs there.

Meadow Brown and freshly-emerged Small Tortoiseshells out and about here now.

Re: June 2009 Sightings

Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 11:58 pm
by wiccaman9
Hello Matsukaze,

I wish I did have a photograph of the small blue! It was a complete surprise to me, as I never saw any food plant on the site either. I saw it at the base of the hill, a real heat trap, - a blurry winged, very small lepidopterid, at first glance I thought a very small and dark brown argus (itself would be a surprise!)- that's to say the very small, dark forms occasionally encountered, but no it landed for 3 seconds maximum, sufficient for me to raise the camera, but not to focus sufficiently before it was flying up again into the air and over the may/hawthorn bushes!! I've seen MANY small blue over the years from isolated scottish populations to the huge numbers on Totternhoe hills/quarries.....make no mistake this was a DEFINITE small blue, MALE, dark upper wings, small suffusion of blue at base of all four wings, wingspan 15-18mm.

There must be a relict population nearby,??

This was the ONLY specimen of the species seen, and a complete surprise to me to see it, I commented on it to Denise, et al.

Cheers, Aron

Re: June 2009 Sightings

Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 9:26 am
by eccles
Hatch Hill isn't very far away from Collard Hill, and last time I visited in midsummer a couple of years ago, it had a decent population of chalkhill blue. This means that the ground there is calcerous and may be good for kidney vetch as well as horseshoe vetch. If I visit Collard Hill again during the current LB emergence I'll try and get over there and check the site out.

Re: June 2009 Sightings

Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 9:52 am
by LCPete
Went to cornwall for a family holiday but still managed to find 2 new species for me :D
From Breney common
Marsh Fritilary
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Small Pearl Bordered Fritilary

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As well as loads of Painted ladies and large Skippers fields, around st mawes

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Re: June 2009 Sightings

Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 12:16 pm
by Susie
jackharr wrote:Heath Fritillary habitat, Hockley Wood Essex, shows the amount of management (coppicing) work that is necessary.

Jack
Are Heath Frits on the wing yet?

Re: June 2009 Sightings

Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 12:34 pm
by Jack Harrison
Susie.

You must have missed my post:
http://www.ukbutterflies.co.uk/phpBB2/v ... =20#p22696

Jack

Re: June 2009 Sightings

Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 3:18 pm
by Padfield
eccles wrote:This is the same individual. The shot is a bit soft but the wingtip is a little crooked, presumably after recent emergence and shows black bordering where a small part of the upperside can be seen. I suspect this is one of eight or nine across the slope that looked a bit 'odd', and may be what was seen by the person who reported seeing them previously.
Any suggestions of what we actually saw?
There's no doubt about the identity - large blue.

Guy

Re: June 2009 Sightings

Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 5:44 pm
by Susie
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Brown hairstreak caterpillar beginning to pupate.

Re: June 2009 Sightings

Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 6:28 pm
by Denise
How cool Susie. 8)
I am so envious. Do you think that they might be on the wing for Aug 2nd?
Denise

Re: June 2009 Sightings

Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 7:18 pm
by Susie
They seem to be doing everything about a week earlier than I expected so I imagine that they will emerge around 14 July so yes, they will be on the wing for 2 August. :D

Re: June 2009 Sightings

Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 7:35 pm
by Denise
Excellent :D
I'm booking my space on your path to see them now.
I will be in touch before then as I might come up for a few days if everything works out.

Denise

Re: June 2009 Sightings

Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 4:50 pm
by Susie
You know that you are welcome, Denise. :D

Small Tortoiseshell (my first ever!) and painted lady in the garden this afternoon.