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NickB wrote:..but it does show a growing understanding that, as a minority-party in coalition, whilst it may feel it has a carte-blanche to unravel all the ideological issues it has with the running of our society now it is in government, it does not have any popular support for many of its proposals. So, I would suggest that we will see it pick its fights more carefully in the future, and that we may see a number of "flagship" proposals ditched as they are exposed as badly thought-out and unworkable, just like the FC sell-off proved to be. Make no mistake though, the policies which they do fall-in behind, will be equally unpalatable..... (Sorry, "In my humble opinion")

For goodness sake Nick,

Why could you not resist ending the thread with one of your anti-establishment tirades?

Where a particular policy of a government, regardless of colour, potentially impacts directly upon the environment and/or the future of insect conservation it is thoroughly appropriate that a thread should develop where people can air their views upon the policy, speculate upon the potential impact and debate possible alternatives; but not everyone wants to read your personal scatter-gun vitriol directed in the general direction of the government of the day. There are a plethora of fora out there where such outlandish pronouncements would be welcome but not here. It reminds me very much of being back in 6th Form; the vocal wedge of young 'activists' with their pick 'n' mix politics, busy highlighting 'social injustices' wherever they saw them, and without any cohesive ideas of their own or inclination to present any workable alternatives. Just agitants with the easiest of agendas; all criticism and yah-boo while extricating themselves of the responsibility to put forward credible solutions of their own.

Plenty of forum members could post their dissatisfaction with the general political system, the current incumbents of number 10, the latest political statements whatever they may be and from whatever side of the political spectrum; but they manage to restrain themselves and choose not to do so. Let's not pollute the site with a constant trickle of bile from just one or two particularly vocal corners.



Felix.

What influence do we reckon Larry the new No.10 cat had on the Prime Minister's change of heart?

I read that Larry has a twitter account. Does anyone have the link?

Jack

Why did they have to go and spoil things by reversing their policy, I was just warming up for a good tirade

Felix - If you think I over-stepped the mark - then I apologise to any who may have been offended.
Far from mellowing in my dotage, I appear to becomming far more angry, and I should not share that with you all!
I feel a compassion for my fellow man that I share for all living things - butterflies being just one that inspire us all.

NickB wrote:I feel a compassion for my fellow man that I share for all living things - butterflies being just one that inspire us all.

I know several Tories that share that view Sorry - didn't mean to stir things up

Seriously - I'm all in favour of the passion shown on these forums. It makes me appear normal

Cheers,

- Pete

Nick

Far from mellowing in my dotage, I appear to becoming far more angry

Tell me about it, i had a stand-up row with a chap in my local library this week (my wife blanched at that news). Age makes you grumpier. We shook hands 5minutes later, and he wished me to have a nice day. He also was old and grumpy.

Zonda admitted being old and grumpy:

he also was old and grumpy.

I do so look forward to meeting you Zonda in the summer. Coming along too Nick? That would then be three of us.

Actually, I'm not always grumpy. I have mood swings, the other extreme is being childishly flippant (no reply needed ).

Jack

Jack

I do so look forward to meeting you Zonda in the summer.

I'll put me best frock on. , and i'll see you at Sand Point.

Zonda:

I'll put me best frock on. , and I'll see you at Sand Point.

Are you sure of that? My wife will probably be with me at Sand Point and she won't allow me to be grumpy; that could spoil the grump-fest.

Jack

No worries Jack, mine will be there as well. Gosh! How will we stop them fighting?

NickB wrote: Far from mellowing in my dotage, I appear to becomming far more angry

Me too and I'm only 37! I think a lot of it is having moved to London and the lack of respect I see from people for their surroundings. That and having to put up with commuters...

I yearn for the countryside and peace and quiet.

Cheers

Lee

Zonda ref spouses:

No worries Jack, mine will be there as well. Gosh! How will we stop them fighting?

I suppose they could always go down to Weston-super-Mare and suss out the best chippies for the Après-Leps.

Jack

Zonda wrote:Jack

I do so look forward to meeting you Zonda in the summer.

I'll put me best frock on. , and i'll see you at Sand Point.

And fishnets, or is that only Neil? Move back to the countryside, Lee, London's bad for one's health. I'm never grumpy since I moved away

Zonda wrote:..... He also was old and grumpy.

You DO need to meet Jack....

The Grump Fest is Saturday 28th May at Sand Point.

Better all get in training.

Better all get in training.

I am actually getting into training of a different sort. I had become horribly unfit and needed exercise in preparation for Arnside, Sand Point, etc. Last year, I found Collard Hill a dreadful slog up from the bottom.

My get-fit regime is quite simple. When I need to go upstairs, instead of doing it just the once, I turn round and walk down and repeat the climb aiming to do four climbs in total when I only need to go upstairs. (And similar technique when I need to go downstairs). Four climbs is almost exactly 10 metres. I am trying to speed up. Of course it wears out the stair carpet but that is due for replacement anyway so doesn't matter. I aim for 100+ metres in a day but am already half way there so it could reach as much as 150 metres today.

The rest of the family think I'm nuts so no doubt you will share that opinion now.

Jack

I found Collard Hill a dreadful slog up from the bottom.

Me too. But my ultimate test last year was the Giants hill circuit at Cerne Abbas. I did it 5 times, looking for non-existent Green HS. I did however cop for some really fresh Marsh Frits, on one of these occasions. Is Sand Point Buggy friendly?

Is Sand Point Buggy friendly?

It's a steepish climb of about 42 metres in a short distance of around 350 metres. I've not been up the path as last year I was looking in the wrong place along the bottom of the cliff.

Jack

Susie wrote: Move back to the countryside, Lee, London's bad for one's health. I'm never grumpy since I moved away

That is the long term aim Susie We're talking about various locations at the moment - near Bristol and Sussex are the latest. I can't wait...

Rogerdodge wrote:The Grump Fest is Saturday 28th May at Sand Point.

I'm aiming to be there! Not sure on which frock to wear yet though...

Cheers

Lee