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Re: Spanish Pyrenees

Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2014 5:17 am
by Ian Pratt
Some more photos for your comments.Ian

Re: Spanish Pyrenees

Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2014 6:08 am
by Chris Jackson
I'd say that 1b is a Long-tailed Blue.

Nice Camberwell higher up (still missing from my photo collection :mrgreen: )
and I agree with Colin about the Bath White :)
Chris

N.B. I cancel my opinion on the LTB :oops:

Re: Spanish Pyrenees

Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2014 6:20 am
by Ian Pratt
Just to clarify photos 1a and 1b are the same butterfly as are 2a and 2b. :) Ian

Re: Spanish Pyrenees

Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2014 7:22 am
by Padfield
2a and 2b seem to be a very worn common blue. It's very difficult to believe 1a and 1b are the same insect - 1b seems to be a female long-tailed blue (as Chris says) while 1a is another common blue, or possibly Lysandra sp.

3 is a turquoise blue, Polyommatus dorylas.

The dragonfly looks like a common darter, Sympetrum striolatum, but I'm just leaving for school and no time to get the books out, to check if it's one of the other Sympetrum sp.

Guy

Re: Spanish Pyrenees

Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2014 7:49 am
by Ian Pratt
Padfield wrote:2a and 2b seem to be a very worn common blue. It's very difficult to believe 1a and 1b are the same insect - 1b seems to be a female long-tailed blue (as Chris says) while 1a is another common blue, or possibly Lysandra sp.

3 is a turquoise blue, Polyommatus dorylas.

The dragonfly looks like a common darter, Sympetrum striolatum, but I'm just leaving for school and no time to get the books out, to check if it's one of the other Sympetrum sp.

Guy
1a and 1b were taken 11 seconds apart according to my EXIF data and I was pretty certain I photographed the same butterfly. :)

Re: Spanish Pyrenees

Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2014 8:49 am
by Sylvie_h
Hi Ian,

Your dragonfly is a common darter (Sympetrum striolatum), very common in Europe and it is still flying here in the UK. I saw 10+ on Gower on Saturday.
Sylvie

Re: Spanish Pyrenees

Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2014 9:03 am
by Neil Hulme
Hi Ian,

Guy is definitely correct. 1a is a male Common Blue and 1b is a female LTB. Both insects are sufficiently well illuminated to allow the pattern of upper/lower wing surfaces to show through. 1a has a spotted underside. 1b has a striped underside. 1b has a prominent dark spot in the corner of its hind-wing. 1a does not. They really are very different. If the EXIF data precludes them being different insects then the EXIF data is wrong, due to some sort of camera malfunction.

BWs, Neil

Re: Spanish Pyrenees

Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2014 9:24 am
by Ian Pratt
Neil Hulme wrote:Hi Ian,

Guy is definitely correct. 1a is a male Common Blue and 1b is a female LTB. Both insects are sufficiently well illuminated to allow the pattern of upper/lower wing surfaces to show through. 1a has a spotted underside. 1b has a striped underside. 1b has a prominent dark spot in the corner of its hind-wing. 1a does not. They really are very different. If the EXIF data precludes them being different insects then the EXIF data is wrong, due to some sort of camera malfunction.

BWs, Neil
I must have photographed two different butterflies. They do move very quickly.Thanks for the ID.
Ian

Re: Spanish Pyrenees

Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2014 6:03 am
by Ian Pratt
Checking through my photos I found this possible Berger's clouded yellow. Ian

Re: Spanish Pyrenees

Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2014 8:42 am
by Charles Nicol
i was not disappointed with the Camberwell Beauty. The second pic especially was delightful.

C

Re: Spanish Pyrenees

Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2014 9:13 pm
by Ian Pratt
Charles Nicol wrote:i was not disappointed with the Camberwell Beauty. The second pic especially was delightful.

C
Many thanks. The photos will be better when I have downloaded them on to my home computer.
Ian

Re: Spanish Pyrenees

Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2014 5:36 am
by Ian Pratt
Butterflies are used to advertise various products and here in Zaragoza I noticed a florists calls Mariposas azules- blue butterflies, with their car decorated appropriately. :)

Re: Spanish Pyrenees

Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2014 10:42 pm
by Ian Pratt
Now home sadly! More photos improved a little to comment on. :)
Ian

Re: Spanish Pyrenees

Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2014 6:01 am
by Chris Jackson
I think these last 3 'postcard' photos round up your foreign trip nicely Ian.
Chris

Re: Spanish Pyrenees

Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2014 9:00 am
by Padfield
Hi Ian. I think your 'possible Berger's' (a couple of posts up) is helice.

Nice name for a florist's. Swiss German doesn't lend itself to such romantic images - there's a florist's in Thusis called 'Blumen Frigg'. :D

Guy

Re: Spanish Pyrenees

Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 7:40 pm
by Ian Pratt
Thanks to every one for their comments and observations. Ian :)