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Re: LOTSW II

Posted: Mon May 02, 2011 3:11 pm
by Jack Harrison
Nick commented:
Susie - You will always be one of the boys to us.... :wink:
Nick. I’m sure you know that male Orange Tips have orange on the wings but females don’t. Now with humans, males have ...........

As you are clearly confused Nick, I’d better send you a PM to explain. :D

Jack

Re: LOTSW II

Posted: Mon May 02, 2011 3:31 pm
by NickB
I'd rather hear it from Susie; just exactly what were you implying, Jack?
I was simply saying that Susie would have fitted-in perfectly with our eclectic little band; though, I'm not sure, on reflection, if that is a compliment :lol:
N

Re: LOTSW II

Posted: Mon May 02, 2011 5:14 pm
by Susie
I'll still take it as one, thanks Nick :D

Re: LOTSW II

Posted: Mon May 02, 2011 6:37 pm
by NickB
Seymour, Compo, Foggy & Clegg go mad in Provence  (with apologies to everyone :lol: )

A trip booked entirely on t' Internet is full of potential pitfalls and surprises, especially as we intrepid three had no confirmation from our rural hotel and had visions of sleeping in the car.  As it turned out, that particular location was perhaps the best for lots of reasons, not least for the hospitality received and our host's genuine interest in our photographs.  I fear we did nothing to dispel the image that the English are an eccentric bunch; yet we felt proud too, to continue the tradition of Aurelians past; only we were armed with cameras, not nets.  Clegg, single-handedly, took it as his own personal mission to improve the entente cordiale  by charming every French lady he met, with his rugged good looks, debonair manner and his grasp of the French language.  Interestingly, our ability to speak French improved in proportion to the amount of alcohol we consumed in the evenings, so that by the end of most nights, we were all fluent.  Compo was the model of decorum and politeness and a real gentle giant; he is also a useful person to be walking with, late at night in the wrong part of town, looking for a restaurant or bar.  His trainers developed an interesting affinity with Roqueforte, or so it seemed, as well as an uncanny ability to appear at his whistle.  Foggy remained so for the duration of the trip, hidden behind a cloud of cigarette smoke, pierced occasionally by a lens, accompanied by a series of curses as the AF got confused at some vital moment.  Clegg and Compo said they hadn't brought enough brown trousers for Foggy to drive again, despite the fact that non-one died! 

The plan had been to meet-up with Seymour and his good wife, down in Provence, who would help us locate sites of interest.  Seymour has developed some French characteristics, such as a relaxed attitude to starting times, since," ...the butterflies don't wake up too early down here".  Eager to have an opportunity to visit some places at this time of year, Seymour reeled-off a string of potential species and numbers we were likely to see.  At that point the heavens opened, lightening forked, and a torrent of water descended on the fearless four, forcing them to retreat to Seymour's holiday home, drink cups of tea provided by Seymour's wife and watch the drips.  In a brief rainless interlude we did see our first butterflies; it looked good for the rest of the trip.  Clegg, not a man without gadgets, had loaded his Tom-Tom and GPS with the appropriate maps so that navigation became a joy and driving a pleasure, except for Compo and Clegg when Foggy drove.  With the basics covered, the trip developed a routine of early rising, driving to sites, catching the basking butterflies in the best light and waiting for Seymour to arrive, camera, sandwiches and tripod at the ready. 

Our starting base was a few miles inland from the coast, where Compo discovered that not only did Clegg play the mouth organ, he did so in his sleep, without the instrument in question!   Vocal and nasal gymnastics aside, we were all so tired after hours of walking through fields of aromatic bushes and herbs, filled with flowers, birds and butterflies ( ...and tics, as we later discovered), that we fell asleep immediately our heads hit the pillow.  Foggy ran out of cigarettes, triggering a twitchy few hours before a service-station gave access to some under-the-counter packs.  Supermarkets are not allowed  to sell them and cigarettes must be kept out of sight unless in a Tabac, where it is OK to openly ask for tobacco, without triggering furtive glances down under the counter.  Foggy expected at any time to be asked if he wanted them in a brown paper bag...

For the next few days, the weather settled into a pattern - sunny mornings, clouding over, with a shower or two in the afternoons and evening and we switched base to a place further inland.  There, Seymour lead us to sites in the foothills of the coastal mountains, up and down tracks and unmarked roads, to old quarries and gravel workings, road-side and river-side meadows and woodland droves. Chasing the weather become something of a sport; Clegg driving around and away from the nasty black clouds and pulling-up at lay-byes to explore new areas when the sun appeared, however briefly. By this time, Compo had picked up some nasty little infection and was quaffing anti-biotics, and the first ominous signs of tics made themselves present in Foggy's arm.  Clegg remained mysteriously free of any ailments, putting it down to the relatively small amount of blood in his alcohol-stream.  We did re-discover a site for Provencal Hairstreak, that, subsequently, Seymour found had no record since 1997; of that we were all pleasantly surprised and justifiably pleased, though Mr Hairy-Legs was not well-groomed when we saw him. 

The last couple of days were spent in a little village halfway up the Alpes Maritime, where we had gone hoping to find some species that had already passed their peak elsewhere or had missed, as well as more alpine specialists.  We arrived to find the sun on strike and hotel closed.  Compo's and Foggy's enquiries at the local bar indicated it did not open until 6:00pm, so we settled in for some sustenance waiting for a gap in the clouds that never came.  By the time the hotel opened, Clegg was engaged to the proprietress of the bar, Compo had discovered the local liqueur and Foggy was explaining why three Englishmen had descended on their village out of nowhere armed with cameras.  It must have worked; every time we went out in the street, people pointed at us and crossed the road.....

Our base for those last two nights was an interesting warren of apartments, created from a large, crumbling house.  The "hotel" was on the top floor, up 6 flights of stairs - no lift and those lights that are timed to just not let you get the key in the door before they go out.  Clegg, surprisingly, got a double room to himself, with balcony, whilst Compo & Foggy shared a similar room, without.  Foggy woke at 5:30am the next morning to the sound of running water and birdsong; the village was in a natural amphitheatre and, as the light rose, so other birds joined-in from the steeply wooded valley sides above. Foggy dimly took this all in as he partook of his early-morning ritual, before disappearing under his customary cloud.

By this time, our host - a jolly, rotund man, who resembled a pin in the bowling alley, with small feet and a large head - had prepared petit dejeuner; a large cup of rocket-fuel coffee and some bread from the baker down the road with butter and jam.  Compo, despite it being so early in the day, conversed with our patron and paid for our rooms; our host had simply given us the keys and left us to it when we "checked-in" the night before.  Our last full day - and it was cloudy - so we went up the mountain to see the snow & watch birds.  Clegg proved he could have been a rally-driver as he threw out the back-end of our front-wheel drive hire-car and drifted round the bends.  "Hire-cars can do that", he explained . Handbrake turns were subsequently banned.  Descending, with an eye on the temperature, we pulled-in to explore an old section of road. Compo kicked a skipper from its hiding place, before a hole appeared in the clouds and the sun broke through for 20 minutes.  Enough time for all manner of butterflies to start emerging including, later, a Queen of Spain Fritillary.

All too quickly the sun disappeared behind the clouds and it started to rain; we retired to Clegg's fiancée's bar for a final meal and drink.  Compo and Clegg went out for a walk when it stopped raining.  The sun came out; Foggy drifted up the side of the valley, cigarette in hand, and butterflies started appearing.  From his vantage point above the valley, he observed the spectacle of two grown men crawling around on their hands and knees in the middle of a small meadow across the river.  Descending and crossing the bridge, Foggy didn't have time to speak before Clegg shouted:  "...Get your camera; and bring mine, and Compo's tripod!  Weavers underside, Chequered Blue, err, err...".  That little meadow was perhaps the most satisfying place to have found, despite it being so late in the day. It was a perfect end to the holiday, to finally find a Chequered Blue for Compo!

It has been rumoured that Seymour, without whose help and generosity this trip would not have been half as successful, has never been seen in the same room as his Swiss counterpart, Alvin.  We can now say, having met both, that is a slanderous lie; Alvin has less hair!

Re: LOTSW II

Posted: Mon May 02, 2011 6:42 pm
by Rogerdodge
Butterfly Trip
Provence / Alpes Maritime, South of France
April 22nd to April 30th 2011


Friday April 22nd
Arrived at Nice Airport in the early afternoon. It was great to see old friends Nick and Paul again. The weather was very pleasant – not as good as the extraordinary weather we left behind in England, but very warm, slightly overcast, and very windy. Our hour long drive to Frejus took a little longer as we stopped off at two “promising looking” sites. The first gave us a fly past Cleopatra – the orange very noticeable and separating it from Brimstone (especially as Roger G later told us that they don’t get Brimstone here). A handful of slightly “orangier” Speckled Woods had us guessing for a while. The only other butterfly was a Green-underside Blue – a first for all of us. Sadly Nick and Paul failed to get photos, and the ones I got were a bit unsharp. I am sure we will get others later on.
The second stop was a random, but promising looking hillside, but failed to produce any butterflies. The weather had turned. It was cold, windy, and threatening rain.....
We arrived at the B&B Hotel in Frejus. A bit of a cramped room, and very “faded” but adequate at only £32 per night with a buffet breakfast, and free WiFi.
Roger Gibbons turned up with mouth watering details of some of the places we were to visit. He is extraordinarily knowledgeable, and keen to share his butterflies with us.
We headed a mile or so into town for a superb pizza. They tried to charge us E45 for a bit of Garlic bread! The decimal point was in the wrong place, and a genuine mistake (of course!!) A few beers, wine, Cognac and whisky. Met some excellent locals, and had a noisy and enjoyable evening.
3 Species

Saturday April 23rd
We had arranged to meet Roger Gibbons in the car park of a Hypermarket about 20 miles away, at 10:00.
At breakfast it was overcast, windy, and brooding black clouds in the near distance. When we reached the Hypermarket it was heavy drizzle. By the time RG arrived, it was lashing down.
We decided to have a coffee and see what the weather was going to do.
It was going to keep raining!
We went, anyway, to have a look at a four meadow site just outside Les Arces.
Despite rain, wind, and cold we did see roosting Common Blue, Small Heath, and, a first for all of us, a Baton Blue. Lack of light, and the wind made photography tricky, but the subjects were torpid – so some fair shots were obtained. We beat a hasty retreat as the heavens opened, and went to Roger’s place for lunch.
At around 15:00 the rain turned to drizzle, so we persuaded Roger to take us to a site by his local lake. A lovely place with flocks of swallows and martins with a few swifts, also a short-toed eagle flew over.
We found roosting Glanvilles in good numbers, and got some excellent photographs. We also had Brown Argus, Small Heath and Common Blue. We also found a beautiful lizard possibly a young ocellated lizard, and watched Coypu in the pond.
Roger had to leave, and the rain had stopped, so we decided to return to the four meadow site. There we found the Baton Blue again, and he had just opened his wings! Also lots more Glanvilles, a Small Copper and some Pyrgus skippers – probably grizzled, but possibly Rosy Grizzled – we need to consult!
Paul found a very tatty, and very dead, Festoon. Let’s hope for smart and live ones tomorrow. The forecast is better.
Meal in the Bufallo Grill Restaurant. Excellent burgers and beer.
Meeting Roger tomorrow at 09:30 at the second Les Arces site.
Forecast is much better!
8 Species

Sunday April 24th
Things could not have been much more different today from yesterday. We met Roger G at the second Les Arces Site. We had a brief stroll through some woods, and arrived at the site. It is, effectively, a crossroads in a wood created by a felled area under pylons, and an area over a pipeline. The day started very overcast. However, occasional bursts of sunshine bought cries of “Provencal Orange Tip” or “Baton Blue!” and then the cloud would come over and they would all disappear again. By 11:00, when Roger G had to leave, things had got pretty good, with sunshine periods longer than cloudy ones, and the count comfortably in the twenties. Then, after lunch, the sun came out in earnest.
Nick and Paul and I would each wander off down different arms of the crossroads, and wander back to share locations of species seen. By 15:30 our total was 28 species. The star of the day being a completely pristine Southern White Admiral. It must have taken up about a gigabyte of memory on its own.
Paul and Nick both saw, and photographed a Provencal Hairstreak – but it decided not to show itself for me.
We decided to pop back to the four meadow site from the previous day. After an hour there we decided to call it a day, being all very tired, sunburnt, and dehydrated.
It was an excellent site, adding 7 species to the days total taking it up to 35.
A meal in Frejus of Rabbit Terrine, Beef Brochette with superb Provencal vegetables. Superb, and very reasonably priced.
29 Species

Monday April 25th
Packed and left Frejus for Brignoles.
Met RG at Roquebrussanne . We parked down by a bridge over the superbly clear stream, and wandered up the forest track. It was overcast, but we still had plenty of species with Pear Bordereds, both Orange Tips, and Holly Blue included. Conditions were not
Then, after an excellent picnic lunch, we headed to Signes. What a superb site. A beautiful rocky buttress held an amazing assortment of plants, both Swallowtails, and a Knapweed Fritillary. Nick the mountain goat scrambled up, but failed to get a snap. We headed into a huge sandy/limestone area with lots of blues and mostly Glanville Fritillaries. We encountered a Provencal Hairstreak (a target species that I dipped out on the previous day) RG was astonished as there are no post 1997 records for it within 25 kilometers.
Stopped off for a beer in a lovely little village, and had Nettle Tree Butterfly again.
Lots of other species seen and photographed.
Went to check in at the B&B, which was a bit smarter, and a bit cheaper than Frejus.
Bufallo Grill again for dinner – just because it was right next door, and we didn’t fancy the stroll into town.
38 Species

Tuesday April 26th
Went to the Signes site again for a long morning, planning to go to the woodland site when it had really heated up to catch mud-puddling etc.
Quarry was really hot, and excellent with glimpse of Large Tortoiseshell. Provence Hairstreak again, Painted Lady.
At the woodland site we met a Frenchman with no English, but a photograph of a Camberwell Beauty on his camera. We managed to communicate in hand signals to the result that he pointed out the locataion on the map. As the sky had turned black, it had started to rain, and the CB site was about 20 miles away where we may get better weather, we decided to go for it.
On arriving at what we guessed was his site, we instantly spotted a Southern White Admiral – a good omen, and a sign that we could be in a butterfly hot-spot.
We walked up the rack for about half a mile, and Nick (as usual) was the first to spot the magnificent CB.
After a few minutes it got totally comfortable with us, and allowed very close “in-your-face2 photographs. Later, as we strolled back, the fourth new butterfly of the day, a Comma popped up.
Back to the Buffalko grill again, and into town for a stroll. Sadly Brignoles is a dump. We did spot a decent little restaurant for tomorrow though.
43 Species

Wednesday April 27th
Following instructions form RG, we headed off to a long undulating site track. An amazing spot with dozens of species, and butterflies everywhere. At one point, whilst photographing a Provencal Orange-Tip, I didn’t have to move to photograph a Southern White Admiral that just dropped in.
Then off to a riverside quarry spot. Initially not brilliant, but slowly butterflies emerged with a really obliging Spotted Fritillary and more very strange Nettle Tree butterflies. A Green-veined White turned out to be our 50th species.
We returned to the woodland track site yet again, but thunder and rain sent us scuttling off to the Sines site again. The weather was not good, and we got no new species, but the butterflies we did find were docile and photogenic.
On the way back to Brignoles, we stopped off at a promising looking meadow with lots of Horseshoe vetch, and some roosting bushes. We found lots of roosting blues and pyrgus skippers. A lovely site – with rather bizarre views of a spectacular black and red spider pouncing on, and starting to devour, a Green-underside Blue.
Back to the Hotel, and a fabulous meal in the bistro restaurant – run by mum, son and granddaughter.
Up early tomorrow for Rimplas.
38 Species


Thursday April 28th
A longish drive to Rimplas. We were to meet RG at 11:00 – as usual we decided to start early, hoping for roosting butterflies, so were on site by 10:00.
It was grim. Misty, drizzle and not very promising at all. We sat in a Café and waited for RG (and the lovely Ann) to arrive. We decided to do the zig zag walk anyway, and we did have the weather improve a little with only 6 butterfly species all day. This at a site where RG has had over 80 species in a day – but rather later on in the season.
The weather didn’t improve all day. We checked into Hotel in Saint Sauveur sur Tinee. Rather faded but in a nice way, with excellent location. Spent some time in Coco’s bar, and met the locals. It seems the town was closed, so we headed up the mountain to look for Dinner – Isola was also closed, and we ended up Saint Etienne de Tinee for a superb plate of rare roast beef and green beans.
6 Species

Friday April 29th
Our last day. The weather was still not good. RG said we should drive from Isoloa to Isola 2000, stopping off wherever possible to check the roadsides for butterflies. As the weather was cold (9 degrees) we drove up to Isola 2000, to see the snow, and then slowly down. We only saw one butterfly, a little roosting pyrgus that paul spotted. We popped into Isola for lunch, and discussed heading out of the mountains to find better weather. A few gaps in the clouds caused us to have hope, and stay put. In the end a hole in the clouds caused the little track following the river up from Isola to explode with butterflies – superb Adonis, and lots of other butterflies kept us busy until the sun dropped again, and they all disappeared. A little way up the road we found some pyrgus (probably grizzled) and an obliging Queen of Spain. The weather closed in, and we headed back to Coco’s bar again. As we had an early start in the morning we persuaded Coco to cook us dinner early – even though she doesn’t do dinners. This was probably helped by the fact that she took quite a shine to our Paul!
After dinner we took a stroll down by the river. Paul and I got separated from Nick. We crossed a small footbridge, and found ourselves in the meadow from heaven.
An obliging Weaver’s Fritillary was followed to roost where Paul got superb shots. Then we found loads of roosting blues. Nick appeared and was sent running back to the car to get his, and my, cameras.
We then spent a happy hour or so in the failing light snapping roosting butterflies – including a beautiful Sooty Copper.
I really regretted leaving my tripod at home, and just bringing a monopod.
It got too dark for photography, so we headed back to the hotel where the locals were keen to see the photographs taken by this eccentric group of Englishmen.
An early night as we had to be at the airport early next morning.
18 Species

In conclusion – the weather could have been kinder to us. On the four days with reasonable weather we saw 29, 38, 43 and 38 species. In the mountains we only managed counts of 6 and 18. Given better weather we could reasonably have expected to have comfortably seen over 60 species. As it was we were really happy with the 57 we saw. The areas visited gave superb prospects for another visit – especially the mountainous areas.

The site locations have been deliberately kept unclear, as the French have a rather less enlightened attitude to collecting specimens of butterflies than we have in the UK

It goes without saying that without the extraordinary knowledge, and friendship of Roger Gibbons, this trip would have been much less succesful.

I am running through my photos now, and hope to post some tomorrow.

Re: LOTSW II

Posted: Mon May 02, 2011 6:59 pm
by David M
Thanks for the commentaire, guys. Seems like you had a great time and I wished I had been there too!

Your narrative is making me even more impatient for my own French 'odyssey' in 2 months' time.

Re: LOTSW II

Posted: Mon May 02, 2011 7:27 pm
by Jack Harrison
Oh dear! I'm wetting myself with laughter.

Jack

Re: LOTSW II

Posted: Mon May 02, 2011 7:46 pm
by Rogerdodge
Sooty Copper
Just gorgeous.

Re: LOTSW II

Posted: Mon May 02, 2011 7:48 pm
by Paul
Hmmm.... Compo here....

just thought I'd put up a few pics of the Blues we saw during the week, many more pics to come I think from us all....
and apologies to the detestors of "butterflies on a stick".

:D :D :D

Re: LOTSW II

Posted: Mon May 02, 2011 8:05 pm
by NickB
Well, a few to come...
Wood White
Wood White
Green-Underside Blue female...thanks for confirmation Guy.
Green-Underside Blue female...thanks for confirmation Guy.
Spotted Frit
Spotted Frit
Green Underside Blue
Green Underside Blue
Rosy Grizzled Skipper (with rather battered specimen in the distance...)
Rosy Grizzled Skipper (with rather battered specimen in the distance...)
Southern White Admiral by stream
Southern White Admiral by stream
Weaver's Frit - a real butterfly-on-a-stick shot!
Weaver's Frit - a real butterfly-on-a-stick shot!
Marsh & Knapweed Frits
Marsh & Knapweed Frits
Sooty Copper
Sooty Copper
Marsh Frit
Marsh Frit
Green Underside Blue pair
Green Underside Blue pair

..and there's more...
:)

Re: LOTSW II

Posted: Tue May 03, 2011 10:04 am
by NickB
...Adonis to add to the Blues....
Adonis
Adonis
Green-Underside Blue ...
Green-Underside Blue (m)
Green-Underside Blue (m)
..and it was a first for me too....
Black-eyed
Black-eyed
and Baton...
Baton
Baton
Baton
Baton
Baton
Baton
and that final Chequered, late in the day...
Chequered
Chequered
:D

Re: LOTSW II

Posted: Tue May 03, 2011 11:03 am
by Padfield
Glad to see the pictures coming out! Good stuff...

The one you're not sure about looks perfectly good for green-underside female, Nick. And the both the grizzled skippers in the picture (the small one in the foreground and the huge one in the background) look like rosy grizzly to me!! :D

Guy

Re: LOTSW II

Posted: Tue May 03, 2011 11:56 am
by NickB
Thanks Guy!
Can confirm that background Rosy Grizzled in the picture was indeed a rather battered and knackered specimen.... :lol:

Let us not forget just how beautiful icarus can be....
...or at least I think it is....
...or at least I think it is....

Re: LOTSW II

Posted: Tue May 03, 2011 2:28 pm
by Lee Hurrell
Great report and stunning photos gents! :mrgreen:

It's also making my mouth water for my French sojourn next month!

Cheers

Lee

Re: LOTSW II

Posted: Tue May 03, 2011 3:09 pm
by Rogerdodge
Can confirm that background Rosy Grizzled in the picture was indeed a rather battered and knackered specimen....
Yeah - thanks for that
Perhaps I should change my name to Onorpordi

Re: LOTSW II

Posted: Tue May 03, 2011 6:20 pm
by NickB
Rogerdodge wrote:
Can confirm that background Rosy Grizzled in the picture was indeed a rather battered and knackered specimen....
Yeah - thanks for that
Perhaps I should change my name to Onorpordi
I'm sure Guy was referring to the ornipordi in the third bush on the right; isn't that so Guy?
I know I was..... :wink:
N

Re: LOTSW II

Posted: Tue May 03, 2011 8:01 pm
by Paul
A little focus on Provencal Orange Tip

Re: LOTSW II

Posted: Tue May 03, 2011 9:57 pm
by NickB
Whilst Paul is covering the whites, et al. - here's a couple of skippers taken about 1m apart at around 850m in the mountains.
I think they may be Rosy Grizzled but I stand to be corrected...( Guy/Roger ?)
... either way, a cute pair....
Rosy Grizzled Skipper_1a_low_28th_April_2011_200mm.jpg
Rosy Grizzled Skipper_2_low_28th_April_2011_200mm.jpg
...Red Underwing Skipper...
Red Underwing Skipper_1_low_27_04_2011_90mm_Copyright.jpg
...and a Mallow...
Mallow Skipper_1_low_27th_April_2011_200mm_Copyright.jpg
:)
Edit: And a little something I couldn't resist...
Southern White Admiral
Southern White Admiral

Re: LOTSW II

Posted: Wed May 04, 2011 10:14 am
by Padfield
Hi Nick et al. The two skippers in that last batch you call rosy, Nick, I can't see as rosy at all. The first one makes me think armoricanus. My gut reaction for the second was malvae/malvoides, but on reflection perhaps armoricanus too. It is difficult, obviously, without an upperside. I also find that when I look for a photograph long enough I lose my instinctive recognition of it, like when you repeat a word until it becomes meaningless!

Armoricanus is the 'common' skipper I see least of, as it is generally rather scarce in Switzerland. Last year I actually saw it in three different locations, but my photos are almost all of the ups, which are very distinctive.

I'd be interested to know what Roger G thinks, as these are his local skippers.

Guy

Re: LOTSW II

Posted: Wed May 04, 2011 11:33 am
by Paul Wetton
Fantastic chaps

Great tale with great photos. Wish I'd had time to come with you.