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Re: British & Irish Butterfly Rarities

Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2023 3:01 pm
by bugboy
Mine arrived today too, as Vince said, the level of research looks quite extraordinary. It will make the dark winter months pass by a lot more easy!

Re: British & Irish Butterfly Rarities

Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2023 3:49 pm
by Pete Eeles
Thanks chaps! Yes, the amount of research was quite extensive, because it had to be. Even when I was done I was sure that there must be other records lurking - on data labels, for example. It reminded me of this episode of Blackadder (the dictionary episode): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOSYiT2iG08

This is why I had to say that this was simply my best attempt at an archeological dig!

Cheers,

- Pete

Re: British & Irish Butterfly Rarities

Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2023 5:24 am
by selbypaul
Hi Pete
Just wanted to add my own praise. I've only flicked through my copy so far, but I can tell it is going to be an excellent and educational read.

Very much looking forward to reading it during the upcoming future autumn and winter evenings!
Best Wishes
Paul

Re: British & Irish Butterfly Rarities

Posted: Sat Sep 30, 2023 7:25 pm
by petesmith
Just finished reading this - having blitzed half of it over the past few evenings, today's afternoon rainfall gave me the perfect excuse to indulge further.

Thoroughly enjoyed it. A superb read, beautifully illustrated and presented from start to finish, and as others have already said, a phenomenal amount of work and research has clearly gone into this masterpiece. You would expect nothing less from Mr.Eeles!

Congratulations Pete - great stuff!

Re: British & Irish Butterfly Rarities

Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2023 11:29 am
by Pete Eeles
Thanks both! It was also nice to get positive feedback while at the AES Exhibition yesterday. Seems the effort was worthwhile, which you never really know until a book is published and get feedback!

Cheers,

- Pete

Re: British & Irish Butterfly Rarities

Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2023 3:19 pm
by Jack Harrison
I must confess to some embarrassment here.  I hadn't noticed the author's name and I had not realised it was written by you, Pete : that gives it a considerable 'gravitas'.

I'll check my bank balance.

Jack

Re: British & Irish Butterfly Rarities

Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2023 8:12 pm
by Padfield
A vagrant copy turned up in Switzerland today! :D It's fantastic, Pete - really well produced as well as well researched. I had been wondering whether to display it with my Frohawk or my d'Abrera, but in the end decided to keep it by the loo, at least until I've read it cover to cover ...

Guy

Re: British & Irish Butterfly Rarities

Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2023 4:54 pm
by Pete Eeles
Padfield wrote: Thu Oct 05, 2023 8:12 pm ... but in the end decided to keep it by the loo ...
:lol:

What an honour :D

Cheers,

- Pete

Re: British & Irish Butterfly Rarities

Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2023 6:08 pm
by jasonbirder
Nice little mention of Pete Eeles book in yesterdays Guardian in an article about the recent American Painted Lady occurences
https://www.theguardian.com/environment ... -of-scilly

Re: British & Irish Butterfly Rarities

Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2023 6:35 pm
by bugboy
jasonbirder wrote: Fri Dec 01, 2023 6:08 pm Nice little mention of Pete Eeles book in yesterdays Guardian in an article about the recent American Painted Lady occurences
https://www.theguardian.com/environment ... -of-scilly
Yup, time to update your book Pete :wink:

Re: British & Irish Butterfly Rarities

Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2023 9:57 am
by Jack Harrison
However, another Guardian article:

https://www.theguardian.com/environment ... extinction

does not inspire confidence in that Isles of Scilly report.

I should perhaps add that it was not the text I questioned (quotes from Neil Hulme) but the photo.

Jack

Re: British & Irish Butterfly Rarities

Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2023 12:15 am
by bugboy
Jack Harrison wrote: Sat Dec 02, 2023 9:57 am However, another Guardian article:

https://www.theguardian.com/environment ... extinction

does not inspire confidence in that Isles of Scilly report.

I should perhaps add that it was not the text I questioned (quotes from Neil Hulme) but the photo.

Jack
The first iteration of that Painted lady story I saw a couple of day ago on facebook did use an 'ordinary' Painted Lady image. It would seem they've since re-edited it, (at Patrick Barkhams insistance :?: )!

Re: British & Irish Butterfly Rarities

Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2023 9:41 am
by David M
Sigh! An all too familiar occurrence.

There's no excuse for it. All one needs to do is type the name 'Large Tortoiseshell' into Google (or other search engines).

Re: British & Irish Butterfly Rarities

Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2023 3:30 pm
by MrSp0ck
Got my copy of the book today, very useful, as i and a few others will have to search over 45 acres for early stages of Black-veined White in a couple of months, and the lovely photographs are a great help. The map of BVW also shows BVWs used to occur on our site?[in the area, barings taken from the level of Sand Point and up from brighton] as a localised colony in the past.

Re: British & Irish Butterfly Rarities

Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2023 4:27 pm
by Matsukaze
MrSp0ck wrote: Sat Dec 09, 2023 3:30 pm Got my copy of the book today, very useful, as i and a few others will have to search over 45 acres for early stages of Black-veined White in a couple of months, and the lovely photographs are a great help. The map of BVW also shows BVWs used to occur on our site?[in the area, barings taken from the level of Sand Point and up from brighton] as a localised colony in the past.
"...discovered in good numbers at Combe Wood, Croydon..." around 1816.

https://www.researchgate.net/publicatio ... rfly_fauna

Re: British & Irish Butterfly Rarities

Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:21 pm
by MrSp0ck
Thanks for the info, although the Author of it has been discredited by Surrey Butterfly Conservation and others in recent years, due to his deleting of valid records {they have to be re-added in after he has removed them causing a lot of extra work for the County Records], following his departure from Butterfly Conservation. There are a lot of Errors in his article re Glanville Fritillary, it is on the list of 1717 records from the Addington/West Wickham area, which was then regarded as Dulwich which is a few miles away, Addington Palace was the home of the Archbishop of Canterbury for many years too. In those times places were often very vague. the 1717 White Admiral was "Wickham East of Croydon" which is the "Three-halfpeeny Wood/ Sparrows Den complex" on the Kent/Surrey Border.

Surrys Butterflies are now mapped by a different County Recorder, under Butterfly Conservation, and the mapping done on this link
https://butterflies2022.s3.eu-west-2.am ... /Main.html

Re: British & Irish Butterfly Rarities

Posted: Sun Dec 31, 2023 12:35 pm
by MrSp0ck
The Surrey County Recorder has also been deleting all records of Essex/Small Skippers [amongst others] as they are not identified on the Transects, all the work done by the transect walkers,

this arrived today

The County Butterfly Recorder has taken the decision to reject these aggregate records on the grounds that they are not identified to species level. The notifications give the impression that the Small/Essex records have been removed from the system, have no value and that therefore there would be no point in recording them.