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- Neil Freeman
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Hi Wurzel, great post and photos
Funnily enough, back when these were on the wing and I was reading various posts on here about them, I wondered if you would go to see them, what with it being your home turf and all that. Great stuff.
Cheers,
Neil.
Funnily enough, back when these were on the wing and I was reading various posts on here about them, I wondered if you would go to see them, what with it being your home turf and all that. Great stuff.
Cheers,
Neil.
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Sorry I haven't replied before now but work has been horrendously hectic
Cheers Pete It was a cracking little butterfly, and there were more to follow
Cheers Mike I made a promise to the finder that I wouldn't post until about now and then once it was okay as they were finally declared a release it was too late to post.
Cheers David It was very tricky but then once their origin had been revealed the moment had passed.
Cheers Bugboy Indeed it was, the Map were just the icing on a pretty sumptuous cake
Cheers Trevor If anything does make it through the winter then I know the back way
Cheers Goldie they are cracking little butterflies and deceptively small
Cheers Neil Well as they were on home turf I had to... In fact looking back on it now I remember that Iphad visited the site before - on a Scout night hike - I should have been looking out for Moths
Have a goodun
Wurzel
Cheers Pete It was a cracking little butterfly, and there were more to follow
Cheers Mike I made a promise to the finder that I wouldn't post until about now and then once it was okay as they were finally declared a release it was too late to post.
Cheers David It was very tricky but then once their origin had been revealed the moment had passed.
Cheers Bugboy Indeed it was, the Map were just the icing on a pretty sumptuous cake
Cheers Trevor If anything does make it through the winter then I know the back way
Cheers Goldie they are cracking little butterflies and deceptively small
Cheers Neil Well as they were on home turf I had to... In fact looking back on it now I remember that Iphad visited the site before - on a Scout night hike - I should have been looking out for Moths
Have a goodun
Wurzel
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Site X Part 2
As we approached the bush it quickly became apparent that the gent was watching a Map butterfly and once he’d finished we moved in a little close so we could get a good look. The bush hung onto the side of the hill with the path on the lower side so by climbing up the hill the whole bush could be encircled. This meant that while I was up top Philzoid could be below and we could both access the same butterfly.
Occasionally it would take off and move further round the bush finding fresh nectar sources. It was on one of these forays that both Philzoid and I lost sight of it. So in order to relocate it we headed round the bush in opposite directions and both ended up with a Map, so two different individuals. In fact over the time we watched I think there were possibly three Maps each distinguishable by the various nicks and tears (or lack of them) in their wings. We were soon joined by others including a certain Sussex Kipper (great to meet you Neil) and took more and more photos while we chatted about butterflies in general, the origin of these Maps, the story of their discovery and so on and so forth. As they were being so obliging I took the opportunity to try for the full range of shots including the “stained glass” which showed off the stunning purple colour to the underside yet in full light it seemed more brown and orange. One individual should have been named “Number 56” because with my usual propensity for pattern recognition those were the digits which clearly stood out from the under wings. About now my stomach was clutching my backbone so we left the Maps with three or four observers and strolled down the hillside and back to the car for lunch and on the way we were joined by another Clouded Yellow. We were soon back by the bush and taking shots in between slurps of coffee and mouthfuls of sandwiches. We then took a stroll further along the path to see if we could find any more Maps hiding and feeding away from the main group. There was a nice selection of butterflies here with Common and Adonis Blues, a Small Tortoiseshell and various whites. The best thing about this little area was witnessing the courtship of a pair of Brown Argus. It was great to watch the frenzied fast flights back and forth along the side of the Down as the male tried to persuade the female to mate. But she wasn’t interested in the slightest and each time she’d land and the male would “buzz” her she would raise her abdomen defensively while the male got the message and then she would fly off...only to be followed by the male doggedly. We headed back to catch a final few shots of the Maps as the weather turned and the rain came down in a brief shower. The sun went behind the clouds and the temperature dropped and as it did the butterflies disappeared...all apart from one Map roosting at the very edge of the bush Happy with the haul we headed back down the hill and wended our way homeward. A cracking day, cracking company and a cracking little site. It would have been worth the visit even without the Maps and even though I now know that they were releases my delight in witnessing them hasn’t dimmed.
Have a goodun
Wurzel
As we approached the bush it quickly became apparent that the gent was watching a Map butterfly and once he’d finished we moved in a little close so we could get a good look. The bush hung onto the side of the hill with the path on the lower side so by climbing up the hill the whole bush could be encircled. This meant that while I was up top Philzoid could be below and we could both access the same butterfly.
Occasionally it would take off and move further round the bush finding fresh nectar sources. It was on one of these forays that both Philzoid and I lost sight of it. So in order to relocate it we headed round the bush in opposite directions and both ended up with a Map, so two different individuals. In fact over the time we watched I think there were possibly three Maps each distinguishable by the various nicks and tears (or lack of them) in their wings. We were soon joined by others including a certain Sussex Kipper (great to meet you Neil) and took more and more photos while we chatted about butterflies in general, the origin of these Maps, the story of their discovery and so on and so forth. As they were being so obliging I took the opportunity to try for the full range of shots including the “stained glass” which showed off the stunning purple colour to the underside yet in full light it seemed more brown and orange. One individual should have been named “Number 56” because with my usual propensity for pattern recognition those were the digits which clearly stood out from the under wings. About now my stomach was clutching my backbone so we left the Maps with three or four observers and strolled down the hillside and back to the car for lunch and on the way we were joined by another Clouded Yellow. We were soon back by the bush and taking shots in between slurps of coffee and mouthfuls of sandwiches. We then took a stroll further along the path to see if we could find any more Maps hiding and feeding away from the main group. There was a nice selection of butterflies here with Common and Adonis Blues, a Small Tortoiseshell and various whites. The best thing about this little area was witnessing the courtship of a pair of Brown Argus. It was great to watch the frenzied fast flights back and forth along the side of the Down as the male tried to persuade the female to mate. But she wasn’t interested in the slightest and each time she’d land and the male would “buzz” her she would raise her abdomen defensively while the male got the message and then she would fly off...only to be followed by the male doggedly. We headed back to catch a final few shots of the Maps as the weather turned and the rain came down in a brief shower. The sun went behind the clouds and the temperature dropped and as it did the butterflies disappeared...all apart from one Map roosting at the very edge of the bush Happy with the haul we headed back down the hill and wended our way homeward. A cracking day, cracking company and a cracking little site. It would have been worth the visit even without the Maps and even though I now know that they were releases my delight in witnessing them hasn’t dimmed.
Have a goodun
Wurzel
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Cracking set of images, Wurzel!
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Hi Wurzel,
congratulations on finding the Map, [kept that quiet]. Lovely set of photos, well done. Did you see any behaviour? for instance courtship, would be interested to hear anything on the subject.
All the best, Nick.
congratulations on finding the Map, [kept that quiet]. Lovely set of photos, well done. Did you see any behaviour? for instance courtship, would be interested to hear anything on the subject.
All the best, Nick.
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Lovely Photo's Wurzel, I always look forward to your postings Goldie
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Really lovely to see Maps in the UK. Wouldn't it be wonderful if they could establish themselves naturally?
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Superb Map pics
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Nice sequence of the Map Wurzel. That must have been a special moment.
My only Map was seen in Garmisch (Germany). Wasn't expecting to see one and remember how exciting it was.
Regards Kev
My only Map was seen in Garmisch (Germany). Wasn't expecting to see one and remember how exciting it was.
Regards Kev
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HI Wurzel,
You're really rubbing that Map sighting in.
Lovely images.
TREVOR
You're really rubbing that Map sighting in.
Lovely images.
TREVOR
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Seriously impressed and extremely envious of the Maps Wurzel
Cheers,
Neil.
Cheers,
Neil.
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More extreme envy here, Wurzel.
Lovely to see them!
Dave
Lovely to see them!
Dave
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Work, work, work recently
Cheers Susie, Goldie and Bugboy for your kind comments
Cheers Nick Unfortunately I caught them late in the day when all the interesting behaviour had happened and they were enjoying their retirement as it were, saying that I did notice how gregarious they were with at least 3 feeding on the one bush.
Cheers David Indeed it would be fabulous, but with LTBs and YLTs in recent years who knows what 2015 will bring? perhaps...
Cheers Kevling Hopefully I might see them in more natural habitat on my summer holiday
Sorry Trevor, I'll put the salt down and give it a rest now
Cheers Neil and Dave sorry for inflicting you with envy
Have a goodun
Wurzel
Cheers Susie, Goldie and Bugboy for your kind comments
Cheers Nick Unfortunately I caught them late in the day when all the interesting behaviour had happened and they were enjoying their retirement as it were, saying that I did notice how gregarious they were with at least 3 feeding on the one bush.
Cheers David Indeed it would be fabulous, but with LTBs and YLTs in recent years who knows what 2015 will bring? perhaps...
Cheers Kevling Hopefully I might see them in more natural habitat on my summer holiday
Sorry Trevor, I'll put the salt down and give it a rest now
Cheers Neil and Dave sorry for inflicting you with envy
Have a goodun
Wurzel
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End of Year Tally 2014
For me 2014 was a bit of a mixed bag. Things started well with Bob seeing me in at the New Year, a Red Admiral in January and a Small Tortoiseshell in February. It then got slowed down as the mild, stormy winter calmed; there were periods of activity interspersed with cooler times so things would get going to then be held back when the weather changed. Eventually things seemed to get going proper and not as late as last year. The summer passed by quite quickly and then the autumn seemed to go on and on, not exactly an Indian Summer just a never ending autumn with butterflies in October and November. I even managed to film a Red Admiral on 23rd December so 2014 was the year I had a full house, with butterflies in every month.
One thing I noticed this year was an East/West split with almost a fortnight difference between the emergence of species in the warmer, sunnier and drier eastern side of the country compared to those in my local neck of the woods. It felt like I was forever playing catch-up with the first sightings generally coming in from the East and then I’d have to sit around and twiddle my thumbs whilst the butterflies got round to emerging near me. Things in the west started to speed up and then things started coming earlier – but still behind eastern part of the country generally.
It felt like quite a frustrating year for me – I did get to see more species this year compared to last but often it felt like hard work. If I wasn’t rushing to beat the weather I’d only see one or two of my intended targets or I didn’t manage to get a photo as they were playing hard to get. Also I didn’t manage to make visits to some of the places I’d intended and often I’d choose to go somewhere and the call would turn out to be the wrong one and there to rub salt into the wound would be a report from someone detailing the bucket loads of butterflies at the site I’d chosen not to visit. So yes 2014 felt like hard work, hopefully 2015 will be easier and more relaxing!
And so to work...
The Skippers 1 Small Skipper, 14-06 Five Rivers
Almost three weeks earlier in my locale than last year although that could have been down to actually getting out and looking and finding rather than the actual emergence. To me they seemed to put in a good showing this year and I saw them in good numbers at a range of sites including first sightings at work and even at the girls local play park. 2 Essex Skipper, 30-06 Five Rivers
Essex Skippers also seemed to have a good year in my neck of the woods and I was seeing them at most sites that I visited. I’m finding it easier to identify them now although how long that will continue I don’t know as my knees are starting to wear out. The easiest place to identify them is The Devenish as the side of the down is so steep that I don’t need to clamber around to see the presence or lack of ink pads so long as I’m higher on the down than the butterfly. In terms of emergence they came out slightly earlier than last year but only by about a week. 3 Lulworth Skipper, 15-06 Lulworth Cove
The recorded emergence of the first Lulworth was much earlier than last year. In fact when I went to see them in mid June they were already looking pretty worn and this was almost 6 weeks earlier than my first sighting in 2013. That being said they were still around the Lulworth site in mid August. I found it difficult to judge how well they did as I saw them at several sites this year (including one at my annual camping holiday site Downshay). However the seemingly ever changing phrenology of this species does seem to be having an effect as although they are around for a huge length of time when I did see them they weren’t in the huge numbers that I’ve encountered before and rather than seeing what felt like hundreds on a visit at the new sites they were individuals and at Lulworth itself I was scrabbling around trying to find them. Hopefully they’ll get their timing sorted and settle back into a routine to enable them to start building in numbers. 4 Silver Spotted Skipper, 25-07-2014 Stockbridge Down
Last year I was lucky enough to find a Silver Spot at Martin Down but I didn’t have the same luck this year. In fact I only managed a single trip out to look for Silver Spots at Stockbridge Down. They were easy enough to find at this site but they were definitely down in number compared to last year. I’m just hoping that they did better at other sites nearby and that after a few not so good years they can pick up at Stockbridge.
I did find them earlier this year, by a fortnight but that is more to do with being able to get out and find them than they actual phrenology. This year unlike previously I was able to take advantage of the first couple of days of the holiday s I broke up on the Wednesday so I had a spare couple of days before we set off on our camping trip. On my trip to Stockbridge this year I was accompanied by both my daughters and they had a great time trying to hunt down the Silver Spots for their dad and I think that they’re my younger daughter’s favourite butterfly as she remarked on how much they look like a Teddy Bear when we were able to approach one as it was feeding. 5 Large Skipper, 25-05-2014 Marshie Site
I’m not really confident with explaining how well Large Skippers did this year as I saw them in just as wide a range of sites as last year and my first sighting was three weeks earlier. Yet on the other hand I don’t recall seeing them in such large numbers as I did last year. Then on the further other hand (or should that be foot?) they still seemed abundant. Can’t quite fathom it if I’m honest but my gut tells me that they didn’t have as good a year as other species. 6 Dingy Skipper, 03-05 Martin Down
It seemed like this species emerged a few weeks earlier this year and also they seemed to have a good season with numbers on the rise. There were a couple of highlights with this species for me this year including finding them at The Devenish for the first time. The second was witnessing some unusual behaviour at the same site. The Dingy flew up high and perched in a tree about 12 feet up where it adopted the usual roosting pose with the wings held back like a moth. Hopefully I’ll be able to add them to the Larkhill list in 2015. 7 Grizzled Skipper, 18-04-2014 Duke site
One of the best things about 2014 was that Larkhill threw up plenty of Grizzlies after finding my first there in 2013. I found that by walking further along the West bound path brought me to the best parts of the site for Grizzlies as here the shrubs were sparser and the path was stonier and the Grizzlies liked to bask in the early morning sun. This year I found my first Grizzlie of 2014 almost a month earlier than in 2013 at my Duke site. In fact I saw Grizzlies at a wide range of sites and in good numbers so I feel that they had a good year. Have a goodun
Wurzel
For me 2014 was a bit of a mixed bag. Things started well with Bob seeing me in at the New Year, a Red Admiral in January and a Small Tortoiseshell in February. It then got slowed down as the mild, stormy winter calmed; there were periods of activity interspersed with cooler times so things would get going to then be held back when the weather changed. Eventually things seemed to get going proper and not as late as last year. The summer passed by quite quickly and then the autumn seemed to go on and on, not exactly an Indian Summer just a never ending autumn with butterflies in October and November. I even managed to film a Red Admiral on 23rd December so 2014 was the year I had a full house, with butterflies in every month.
One thing I noticed this year was an East/West split with almost a fortnight difference between the emergence of species in the warmer, sunnier and drier eastern side of the country compared to those in my local neck of the woods. It felt like I was forever playing catch-up with the first sightings generally coming in from the East and then I’d have to sit around and twiddle my thumbs whilst the butterflies got round to emerging near me. Things in the west started to speed up and then things started coming earlier – but still behind eastern part of the country generally.
It felt like quite a frustrating year for me – I did get to see more species this year compared to last but often it felt like hard work. If I wasn’t rushing to beat the weather I’d only see one or two of my intended targets or I didn’t manage to get a photo as they were playing hard to get. Also I didn’t manage to make visits to some of the places I’d intended and often I’d choose to go somewhere and the call would turn out to be the wrong one and there to rub salt into the wound would be a report from someone detailing the bucket loads of butterflies at the site I’d chosen not to visit. So yes 2014 felt like hard work, hopefully 2015 will be easier and more relaxing!
And so to work...
The Skippers 1 Small Skipper, 14-06 Five Rivers
Almost three weeks earlier in my locale than last year although that could have been down to actually getting out and looking and finding rather than the actual emergence. To me they seemed to put in a good showing this year and I saw them in good numbers at a range of sites including first sightings at work and even at the girls local play park. 2 Essex Skipper, 30-06 Five Rivers
Essex Skippers also seemed to have a good year in my neck of the woods and I was seeing them at most sites that I visited. I’m finding it easier to identify them now although how long that will continue I don’t know as my knees are starting to wear out. The easiest place to identify them is The Devenish as the side of the down is so steep that I don’t need to clamber around to see the presence or lack of ink pads so long as I’m higher on the down than the butterfly. In terms of emergence they came out slightly earlier than last year but only by about a week. 3 Lulworth Skipper, 15-06 Lulworth Cove
The recorded emergence of the first Lulworth was much earlier than last year. In fact when I went to see them in mid June they were already looking pretty worn and this was almost 6 weeks earlier than my first sighting in 2013. That being said they were still around the Lulworth site in mid August. I found it difficult to judge how well they did as I saw them at several sites this year (including one at my annual camping holiday site Downshay). However the seemingly ever changing phrenology of this species does seem to be having an effect as although they are around for a huge length of time when I did see them they weren’t in the huge numbers that I’ve encountered before and rather than seeing what felt like hundreds on a visit at the new sites they were individuals and at Lulworth itself I was scrabbling around trying to find them. Hopefully they’ll get their timing sorted and settle back into a routine to enable them to start building in numbers. 4 Silver Spotted Skipper, 25-07-2014 Stockbridge Down
Last year I was lucky enough to find a Silver Spot at Martin Down but I didn’t have the same luck this year. In fact I only managed a single trip out to look for Silver Spots at Stockbridge Down. They were easy enough to find at this site but they were definitely down in number compared to last year. I’m just hoping that they did better at other sites nearby and that after a few not so good years they can pick up at Stockbridge.
I did find them earlier this year, by a fortnight but that is more to do with being able to get out and find them than they actual phrenology. This year unlike previously I was able to take advantage of the first couple of days of the holiday s I broke up on the Wednesday so I had a spare couple of days before we set off on our camping trip. On my trip to Stockbridge this year I was accompanied by both my daughters and they had a great time trying to hunt down the Silver Spots for their dad and I think that they’re my younger daughter’s favourite butterfly as she remarked on how much they look like a Teddy Bear when we were able to approach one as it was feeding. 5 Large Skipper, 25-05-2014 Marshie Site
I’m not really confident with explaining how well Large Skippers did this year as I saw them in just as wide a range of sites as last year and my first sighting was three weeks earlier. Yet on the other hand I don’t recall seeing them in such large numbers as I did last year. Then on the further other hand (or should that be foot?) they still seemed abundant. Can’t quite fathom it if I’m honest but my gut tells me that they didn’t have as good a year as other species. 6 Dingy Skipper, 03-05 Martin Down
It seemed like this species emerged a few weeks earlier this year and also they seemed to have a good season with numbers on the rise. There were a couple of highlights with this species for me this year including finding them at The Devenish for the first time. The second was witnessing some unusual behaviour at the same site. The Dingy flew up high and perched in a tree about 12 feet up where it adopted the usual roosting pose with the wings held back like a moth. Hopefully I’ll be able to add them to the Larkhill list in 2015. 7 Grizzled Skipper, 18-04-2014 Duke site
One of the best things about 2014 was that Larkhill threw up plenty of Grizzlies after finding my first there in 2013. I found that by walking further along the West bound path brought me to the best parts of the site for Grizzlies as here the shrubs were sparser and the path was stonier and the Grizzlies liked to bask in the early morning sun. This year I found my first Grizzlie of 2014 almost a month earlier than in 2013 at my Duke site. In fact I saw Grizzlies at a wide range of sites and in good numbers so I feel that they had a good year. Have a goodun
Wurzel
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HI Wurzel,
Image wise you have saved the best till last , love the Skipper on Orchid .
After advise from you and others about choice of replacement camera, I have purchased an FZ 38,
So i am now armed and dangerous,or rather hope to be, once i have got used to it !!
All the best ,
TREVOR
Image wise you have saved the best till last , love the Skipper on Orchid .
After advise from you and others about choice of replacement camera, I have purchased an FZ 38,
So i am now armed and dangerous,or rather hope to be, once i have got used to it !!
All the best ,
TREVOR
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Once again Wurzel you've given us a real treat, your photo's are lovely and I'm envious of your Lulworth, and Grizzled Skippers never having seen them yet I don't know of any sites near us, I always seem to have to go miles to see most Butterflies which is a real drag some times and what makes it really annoying is the fact (like you experienced) when I travel and it's got to be for at least a few days (like my trip to Bently Woods) I don't manage to see them (the Purple E) but I suppose that's all part and parcel of being a Butterfly enthuiast It's so brilliant if we do and the expectation of where and when keeps us going Goldie
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Cheers Trevor The FZ38 is the camera I'd have gone for if I hadn't have been forced into buying my wife's old Nikon - still I'm very chuffed with it
Cheers Goldie The Lulworths are easy so long as you can get to Dorset coast between about June and August. I don't know too much about the distribution of Grizzlies so I can't help much there What you say about the expectation is true and I go though it for pretty much every species throughout the year - but I wouldn't have it any other way
February 2015
Well it still is...just I suppose... Have a goodun
Wurzel
Cheers Goldie The Lulworths are easy so long as you can get to Dorset coast between about June and August. I don't know too much about the distribution of Grizzlies so I can't help much there What you say about the expectation is true and I go though it for pretty much every species throughout the year - but I wouldn't have it any other way
February 2015
Well it still is...just I suppose... Have a goodun
Wurzel
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Hi Wurzel,
Lovely reports and photos but, that opened wing shot of the Grizzled Skipper deserves a round of applause. Excellent.
All the best, Nick.
Lovely reports and photos but, that opened wing shot of the Grizzled Skipper deserves a round of applause. Excellent.
All the best, Nick.
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Agreed, that Grizzly is gorgeous! Hope to see my first this yearNick Broomer wrote:Hi Wurzel,
Lovely reports and photos but, that opened wing shot of the Grizzled Skipper deserves a round of applause. Excellent.
All the best, Nick.
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Wurzel, great sequence of photos with the Skippers. Reading your review of 2014, I can sympathise. Mine felt very similar. A number of my target species involved a trip from the east of England to the west. Unfortunately the weather beat me when I holidayed in Gloucestershire and other planned trips were cancelled on the back of poor forecasts. I think I will just go for it this year and hope I strike lucky.
Regards Kev
Regards Kev
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