Nick Broomer

[Maximus]

Very nice shots Nick, glad you found both Brown and Purple Hairstreak ovum, shame sites get bu**ered up, really should'nt happen in this 'supposed' enlightened age

Mike

[Nick Broomer]

Thanks for your comments Wurzel and Mike, appreciated as always.

Wurzel, its great getting out during the winter months and, its even better when you are looking for the future generations of our butterflies. And like some forum members, saving a few from certain death, by searching storm damaged branches and rearing them for themselves. Also a great way to observe and learn.

Mike, it is a shame that vegetation is still being destroyed knowing that butterflies are laying their eggs here, [or a lack of communication]. I have witnessed this soul destroying act on woodland sites that are managed for these insects. So what hope have we got.

All the best, Nick.

[Nick Broomer]

Hi everyone,

a long time since i posted, but my computer was on the way out. I have now got myself a new one and, have at last managed to install most of my photos.

Last year i spent most of my time learning more about the early stages, and trying to understand them rather than photographing butterflies.

Here is a photo of a Orange-tip larva just finishing eating it's moulted skin. I believe this is the first time this behaviour has ever been recorded, could be wrong.

[Pete Eeles]

Here is a photo of a Orange-tip larva just finishing eating it's moulted skin. I believe this is the first time this behaviour has ever been recorded, could be wrong.

Hi Nick - it's quite well-known that many larvae eat their old skin after a moult. Although I don't think I've seen a better photo of a larva in the process of doing this!

Cheers,

- Pete

[David M]

Good to see you back, Nick. Excellent image of rarely observed behaviour.

[Wurzel]

Great to see you back Nick and looking forward to plenty more of your cracking photos

Have a goodun

Wurzel

[Nick Broomer]

Hi Pete, David and Wurzel,

thank you for your kind comments, appreciated as always.

All the best, Nick.

[Nick Broomer]

When i was trying to get a close-up photograph of a Red Admiral's eye i was surprised to find it covered in tiny hairs, [i knew other butterflies had a few hairs, or none at all] that catches any dust particles, debris etc., [to small for the human eye to detect], ensuring protection against damage to the eyes.

[Wurzel]

Wow! That is a crazy image Nick

Have a goodun

Wurzel

[David M]

Wow! That is a crazy image Nick

It's certainly an eye-opener.

I love these types of image. They give you a different perspective.

[kevling]

Nick,

The Red Admiral eye photo is simply brilliant. I have been doing a lot more macro photography this past year, but my equipment won't allow that sort of detail. Woudl be interested to learn what lens you use.

Regards Kev

[Nick Broomer]

Thanks for the comments guys. Appreciated.

David wrote, it's certainly an eye-opener. Nice pun.

Kev, i use a Sigma 150 2.8 APO macro DG HSM lens with a set of Kenko extension tubes, using manual focus. Hope that helps.

All the best, Nick.

[Nick Broomer]

To big to pupate...

The 1st photo below shows a Small White larva at 25mm in length and, 2-3mm wide. This is the normal size of a 4th instar thats ready to pupate.

The 2nd photo depicts another Small White larva that for some reason has grown to the mighty size of 35mm in length and, 5mm wide, far to big to pupate. If this caterpillar had managed to successfully pupate it would have been a Large Small White, but sadly it went a funny colour and died.

In the 3rd photo [just for comparison] it shows a Small White larva preparing to pupate, now only 19 mm in length, the size of the fully pupated pupa, [the bottom left corner] whilst in the top right of the photo you have the overgrown larva at 35mm in length.

[David M]

You are excelling yourself, Nick. Wonderful images.

[Wurzel]

Fantastic shots Nick Any ideas what caused the increase in size - was it carrying any parasitic larva?

Have a goodun

Wurzel

[Nick Broomer]

Hi David and Wurzel,

thanks for the kind comments.

Wurzel, the larva must have been just damned greedy,

All the best, Nick.

[Nick Broomer]

Sorry Wurzel, i didn't answer your question fully, or properly. You asked, any ideas what caused the increase in size, was it carrying any parasitic larva?
Firstly, there must of been something genetically wrong with this particular caterpillar, just to carry on feeding until it died. Secondly if it had been parasited it should not have made any difference to it's size.

All the best, Nick.

[millerd]

Interesting, Nick.

There is a phenomenon called neotony, in which an organism persists in its larval form and never metamorphoses. The most well known example is the axolotl, which is the larval stage of a species of salamander that "never grows up". I have never heard of this happening with butterfly larvae, but maybe there are documented examples.

Can anyone out there provide any more information?

Dave

[Nick Broomer]

Found this on Scientific American.

A gene named Broad [odd name for a gene] is essential for the change from larva to pupa to complete metamorphosis in a caterpillar. If the caterpillar is without this gene it is incapable of developing into a pupa. So fails in it's quest to become a Butterfly, and lives out it's life as a caterpillar where it continues to eat and grow larger until it eventually dies.

[Wurzel]

Cheers for the answer Nick. It's really interested me and has sent me trawling back through my memory, partiularly when Dave mentioned neotony. It seems that the absence of 'Broad' casues something like neotony but without one of the defining features which is the ability to sexually reproduce - more of an endless childhood than retention of juvenile characteristics in a sexually mature adult. I'll have to have more of look at this and I'm wondering whether this 'broad' gene is a/like a Hox gene? I'll have to dig out my genetics books tomorrow

Have a goodun

Wurzel