Fermyn Woods
Fermyn Woods
Hi all,
My son & I are planning a trip south from Middlesbrough in the near future (maybe this w/e - weather dependant), most probably to Fermyn Woods - it's 130 miles closer than Bentley.
Target species will be
Purple Emporer
White Admiral
possibly Essex Skipper
Are PE on the wing here yet? Anything else of interest?
As we've never visited the site before any advice as to where to look/directions would be greatly appreciated.
Many thanks
Martyn
My son & I are planning a trip south from Middlesbrough in the near future (maybe this w/e - weather dependant), most probably to Fermyn Woods - it's 130 miles closer than Bentley.
Target species will be
Purple Emporer
White Admiral
possibly Essex Skipper
Are PE on the wing here yet? Anything else of interest?
As we've never visited the site before any advice as to where to look/directions would be greatly appreciated.
Many thanks
Martyn
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Hi Martyn,
Sandra and I went there on Monday, weather was horrible, however we did see a PE gliding above the trees. A couple also had a grounded one that day as well.
We also saw 6 White Admiral, White Letter Hairstreaks, Meadow Brown and lots of Ringlets.
If you can get the weather right then it is one of the best PE sites plus you get Red Kites soaring over head as well.
If you park in the visitor centre then it is a fair walk plus you have to pay. I am not sure which way you will be coming but if you go down the A6116 there is a turning before the visitor centre signs, take that left and follow narrow road for 1/2 mile and opposite the gliding field is a entrance on the right with a green metal gate. Park on the side and you are on the PE path. They can be seen anywhere along path. Get there from 9.00 onwards if sunny.
Good luck
Sandra and I went there on Monday, weather was horrible, however we did see a PE gliding above the trees. A couple also had a grounded one that day as well.
We also saw 6 White Admiral, White Letter Hairstreaks, Meadow Brown and lots of Ringlets.
If you can get the weather right then it is one of the best PE sites plus you get Red Kites soaring over head as well.
If you park in the visitor centre then it is a fair walk plus you have to pay. I am not sure which way you will be coming but if you go down the A6116 there is a turning before the visitor centre signs, take that left and follow narrow road for 1/2 mile and opposite the gliding field is a entrance on the right with a green metal gate. Park on the side and you are on the PE path. They can be seen anywhere along path. Get there from 9.00 onwards if sunny.
Good luck
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Martyn
There are two 'hot spots' at Fermyn where emperors are regularly found.
Parking opposite the gliding club as described by Kevin is the most popular spot but if you have no luck there, walk back along the ride towards the road, turn left and walk along the road for about 3/400 yards and you will find another ride on your left. This is lined with sallows and can be quite productive. I shall be there tomorrow morning, weather permiting!
Good luck. Alex
There are two 'hot spots' at Fermyn where emperors are regularly found.
Parking opposite the gliding club as described by Kevin is the most popular spot but if you have no luck there, walk back along the ride towards the road, turn left and walk along the road for about 3/400 yards and you will find another ride on your left. This is lined with sallows and can be quite productive. I shall be there tomorrow morning, weather permiting!
Good luck. Alex
Many thanks both of you, much appreciated. Forecast is looking OK for tommorrow (Saturday) so with luck we'll be there.
I'd be interested on hearing how you got on if you got there Friday Alex.
Can Essex Skipper be found anywhere in that area? I'ts a species my son still hasn't seen, and it's difficult to get site specific details for this species.
Thanks
Martyn
I'd be interested on hearing how you got on if you got there Friday Alex.
Can Essex Skipper be found anywhere in that area? I'ts a species my son still hasn't seen, and it's difficult to get site specific details for this species.
Thanks
Martyn
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Martyn
I got to Fermyn about 10am this morning - I was leading a group of five other people, 4 of whom had never seen purple emperor before. The weather was poor with broken cloud allowing a few brief sunny spells and a fairly strong breeze added to the problems. We parked by the gliding club as described above. We entered the wood and I was in process of telling the group to watch out for butterflies on the ground when we all but trod on an emperor - and we hadn't gone 100 yards! Unfortunately, we spooked it but we all had wonderful purple flashing views as it flew onto a branch about 10 feet above us. It remained here for several minutes before moving into the canopy. Over the next hour, we saw one more emperor settle briefly on the ground but take off again before we got close. Weather conditions were deteriorating throughout and we saw no more emperors but white admirals were abundant. We ended the day with 12 species, the last being a marbled white before the heavens opened and a monsoon soaked us.
Although Kevin and Sandra had a sighting of emperor some days ago, the warden was unaware of any previous sightings this year. So it looks like a very late emergence this year. Here's hoping for better weather tomorrow when I try again!
Alex
I got to Fermyn about 10am this morning - I was leading a group of five other people, 4 of whom had never seen purple emperor before. The weather was poor with broken cloud allowing a few brief sunny spells and a fairly strong breeze added to the problems. We parked by the gliding club as described above. We entered the wood and I was in process of telling the group to watch out for butterflies on the ground when we all but trod on an emperor - and we hadn't gone 100 yards! Unfortunately, we spooked it but we all had wonderful purple flashing views as it flew onto a branch about 10 feet above us. It remained here for several minutes before moving into the canopy. Over the next hour, we saw one more emperor settle briefly on the ground but take off again before we got close. Weather conditions were deteriorating throughout and we saw no more emperors but white admirals were abundant. We ended the day with 12 species, the last being a marbled white before the heavens opened and a monsoon soaked us.
Although Kevin and Sandra had a sighting of emperor some days ago, the warden was unaware of any previous sightings this year. So it looks like a very late emergence this year. Here's hoping for better weather tomorrow when I try again!
Alex
Phil & I headed down to Fermyn Woods this morning arriving at around 10am. Alex recognised our car and introduced himself as we arrived. He then very kindly showed us the best areas.
Several White Admirals were easily seen, together with Commas, Ringlets, Meadow Browns, Large & Small Skippers and Whites. Others were seeing White Letter and Purple Hairstreaks, but we chose to focus on our main quarry, the Purple Emporer.
One or two had been seen earlier, but we were struggling. We tried a second ride further to the west, eventually getting far from satisfying views of a fly over at tree top height. By 12.30pm we returned to the original ride fearing the worst. Even more frustrating was the news that up to three males had been showing there on the ground in our absence.
Fortunateley persistance paid off when we came upon a small group watching a male on the track.
This remained for 15 minutes giving amazing views. It eventually flew off, giving chase to another male in the tree tops.
About 10 minues later, a further male dropped to the ground, giving excellent if brief views.
Can we thank Sandra, Kevin and Steve (who PM'ed us) for directions and especially Alex for the information and for acting as our guide this morning.
Cheers
Martyn & Phil
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Several White Admirals were easily seen, together with Commas, Ringlets, Meadow Browns, Large & Small Skippers and Whites. Others were seeing White Letter and Purple Hairstreaks, but we chose to focus on our main quarry, the Purple Emporer.
One or two had been seen earlier, but we were struggling. We tried a second ride further to the west, eventually getting far from satisfying views of a fly over at tree top height. By 12.30pm we returned to the original ride fearing the worst. Even more frustrating was the news that up to three males had been showing there on the ground in our absence.
![Rolling Eyes :roll:](./images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif)
Fortunateley persistance paid off when we came upon a small group watching a male on the track.
![Very Happy :D](./images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif)
About 10 minues later, a further male dropped to the ground, giving excellent if brief views.
Can we thank Sandra, Kevin and Steve (who PM'ed us) for directions and especially Alex for the information and for acting as our guide this morning.
Cheers
Martyn & Phil
![Image](http://upload9.postimage.org/168229/whitearmiral1.jpg)
![Image](http://upload9.postimage.org/168251/purpleemporer8.jpg)
![Image](http://upload9.postimage.org/168281/purleemporer2.jpg)
![Image](http://upload9.postimage.org/168304/purpleemporer5.jpg)
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Another enjoyable morning at Fermyn. The emperors were a little slow to appear but they eventually came to ground in reasonable numbers and I think everyone had good views and photographic opportunities.It was nice to meet several UKButterfliers! A special thanks to Kevin and Sandra who were able to help me out after I stupidly left home without a flash card in the camera!
Alex
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I headed down there today (it's a mere 260 mile round trip for me) to meet up with Trev Sawyer and hopefully see my first PE. Unfortunately we were greeted by heavy cloud on arrival and it stayed that way all day. All we saw were a few ringlets, a couple of very sleepy small skippers, a solitary gatekeeper and a purple hairstreak high up in the oaks.
I'll be back - watch this space!
I'll be back - watch this space!
DJT
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Yes, damned 'Countryfile' weather forecast eh?
... The trip was organised as they had confidently predicted it would be the best day of the week.
A phrase known to anglers as well as butterfliers was used a lot during the day: "You should have been here yesterday mate - it was really good". I too will be back.
P.S. Dave. Couldn't have 'blanked' in better company. It was great to meet up for a good old chin-wag at last and thanks again for signing the books![Very Happy :D](./images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif)
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A phrase known to anglers as well as butterfliers was used a lot during the day: "You should have been here yesterday mate - it was really good". I too will be back.
P.S. Dave. Couldn't have 'blanked' in better company. It was great to meet up for a good old chin-wag at last and thanks again for signing the books
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Bumped into David Tipping and Alex Mclennan this afternoon at Fermyn. Due to family commitments, I was rather too late on parade to see a Purple Emperor on the ground. Dave et al had been there for some time - I'll let them tell you about their day.
I saw "His Majesty" in the tops of the trees, but MY highlight was a different coloured specimen... Dave had spotted it earlier and just missed out on getting a snap, but it landed near me in the next clearing about a hundred yards away and I managed a few hasty shots before it dissappeared. Maybe I'll stick it in the Competition
- thanks Mr. T!
Trev
I saw "His Majesty" in the tops of the trees, but MY highlight was a different coloured specimen... Dave had spotted it earlier and just missed out on getting a snap, but it landed near me in the next clearing about a hundred yards away and I managed a few hasty shots before it dissappeared. Maybe I'll stick it in the Competition
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