Hi all,
I was wondering if you could help me identify this moth, I found it last summer, on vacation in Northern Germany.
I've been looking through every butterfly/moth-ID book I've had available. Alas, no luck.. I'd really love to find out who this little fella is - I'm working on an album of all butterflies and moths I've found at my family's farm in Northern Germany.
Length is approx. 1-1.5cm. It has a peculiar proboscis (..?), looks almost like a second set of antennae when seen from from above... also looks as if it's missing a pair of legs (seems to have another pair under the wings). First and last time I saw this kind.
Found him while I was walking along an old road, on one side a meadow (with quite a few Queen of Spain Fritillaries) and the other side a forestry with some sort of pinetrees, though some old oaks along the road. Somewhat shadowy, but not particularly cool.. Must have been in July or August, in the afternoon/early evening. He flew onto my jacket, tried to move him as carefully as I could, but I wonder if that might have damaged his legs.. Didn't notice at the time.
Anyone got a clue what species this is? Or does anyone know what that odd proboscis is good for?
(Unidentified Moth on Flickr for a larger image, a bit blurred, however... Not ideal settings, only had one hand free, hehe)
Unidentified moth from Germany,
Re: Unidentified moth from Germany,
try the UKmoths site... can search all the micros from the UK on that site - may have a browse for you later
resembles, but isn't Catoptria permutatella, but Subfamily: Crambinae likely
resembles, but isn't Catoptria permutatella, but Subfamily: Crambinae likely
Re: Unidentified moth from Germany,
I don't think so. Those palps and the general outlook ... its something entirely different. I'll try to look...
Right. Oecophoridae: Harpella forficella - see one of the pictures in http://www.lepidoptera.pl/show.php?ID=2105&country=UK.
Right. Oecophoridae: Harpella forficella - see one of the pictures in http://www.lepidoptera.pl/show.php?ID=2105&country=UK.
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Re: Unidentified moth from Germany,
Cheers! That should be the one.JKT wrote:I don't think so. Those palps and the general outlook ... its something entirely different. I'll try to look...
Right. Oecophoridae: Harpella forficella - see one of the pictures in http://www.lepidoptera.pl/show.php?ID=2105&country=UK.
I'm impressed, gotta ask, how do you manage to find them?
Oh, while we're at it... I found another moth I haven't been able to identify, from the same area. Not the greatest image quality, borrowed a camera for this one.. Approx 2,5-3,5cm wingspan I think.
Care to help me out once more?
via Flickr.
Last edited by CommonBlue on Fri Feb 25, 2011 11:57 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Re: Unidentified moth from Germany,
That's too easy: Geometridae - Larentiinae - Lythria cruentaria. The fact that it is rather common here helps...
Experience helps - even if you don't know what it is, you at least have a good idea what it is not. Then it is just a matter of clicking the right links...
Are you familiar with http://www.lepiforum.de/cgi-bin/lepiwiki.pl?
Experience helps - even if you don't know what it is, you at least have a good idea what it is not. Then it is just a matter of clicking the right links...
Are you familiar with http://www.lepiforum.de/cgi-bin/lepiwiki.pl?
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Re: Unidentified moth from Germany,
That's a really nice website. Thanks for sharing!JKT wrote:Are you familiar with http://www.lepiforum.de/cgi-bin/lepiwiki.pl?
Cheers,
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Re: Unidentified moth from Germany,
Thanks, JKT
And thanks for the link as well, I wasn't familiar with that website.
Cheers,
And thanks for the link as well, I wasn't familiar with that website.
Cheers,