New Biology Section

Discussion forum for books and any other media concerning butterflies.
Gibster
Posts: 713
Joined: Wed Mar 17, 2010 8:06 pm
Location: Epsom, Surrey
Contact:

Re: New Biology Section

Post by Gibster »

Hi Pete,
Pete Eeles wrote:Thanks for the comments Gibster - did you ever post your obsoleta Small Copper?
I seem to recall reading somewhere on this site that pics had to be of a certain standard and in keeping with other pics. I wouldn't want to bring your website into disrepute with my appallingly rubbishy shots, so no - I didn't upload any, lol! :lol:

I didn't know the Indian Red Admirals on Canary Island had been split, apologies for that. :oops:

I'm half inclined to see what I can find out about the Tiger Swallowtail record though. Seems too intriguing to ignore...

All the very best,

Gibster.
Raising £10,000 for Butterfly Conservation by WALKING 1200 miles from Land's End to John O'Groats!!!
See http://www.justgiving.com/epicbutterflywalk or look up Epic Butterfly Walk on Facebook.
User avatar
Pete Eeles
Administrator & Stock Contributor
Administrator & Stock Contributor
Posts: 6768
Joined: Tue Jan 17, 2006 6:10 pm
Location: Thatcham, Berkshire
Contact:

Re: New Biology Section

Post by Pete Eeles »

Hi folks,

If you want to know why I've been quiet for the last month - the reason is here:

http://www.ukbutterflies.co.uk/reports_variation.php

The new "Biology" section of UKB is officially launched (there is a new "Biology" main menu)! The first section has taken every spare second of my time over the last 6 weeks, but I do intend to cover off additional topics over time. If anyone would like to help out then please let me know! I have to say, it can be quite rewarding; I know more about genetics than I could ever have imagined!

And thanks to Guy and Piers, in particular, for their feedback - as well as the many photo contributors.

All comments welcome.

If anyone wants to hear this topic first-hand, I'll be presenting on the subject at the Hampshire and Isle of Wight AGM and Members' Day this coming Saturday.

Cheers,

- Pete
Life Cycles of British & Irish Butterflies: http://www.butterflylifecycles.com
British & Irish Butterflies Rarities: http://www.butterflyrarities.com
User avatar
Neil Hulme
Posts: 3595
Joined: Fri Feb 08, 2008 8:27 pm

Re: New Biology Section

Post by Neil Hulme »

Hi Pete,
Great effort! A mine of information and very nicely presented too. I haven't had time to read it all yet, but I'll be coming back.
Neil
User avatar
Vince Massimo
Administrator & Stock Contributor
Administrator & Stock Contributor
Posts: 1851
Joined: Sat Aug 16, 2008 7:36 pm
Location: Crawley, Sussex

Re: New Biology Section

Post by Vince Massimo »

Pete,

I have just finished reading your first article on variation, which was an absolutely fascinating account of my favourite butterflying subject. I particularly liked the presentation and layout which made it very accessable. I cannot begin to imagine the amount of work that went into researching the article, much less how you managed to find the time to do it all. I look forward to further offerings, not least because you have set a very high initial standard.

Cheers,

Vince
Last edited by Vince Massimo on Fri Oct 22, 2010 12:25 am, edited 1 time in total.
User avatar
Pete Eeles
Administrator & Stock Contributor
Administrator & Stock Contributor
Posts: 6768
Joined: Tue Jan 17, 2006 6:10 pm
Location: Thatcham, Berkshire
Contact:

Re: New Biology Section

Post by Pete Eeles »

Thanks guys, and thanks for the use of your photos :)

As a friend of mine (a prolific author) once told me, "I write to learn". There's nothing quite like doing the research and writing down your thoughts to get it straight in your head!

So yes, a bit of a slog, but well worth it from a personal point of view. And as I say in the article, it barely scratches the surface!

Cheers,

- Pete
Life Cycles of British & Irish Butterflies: http://www.butterflylifecycles.com
British & Irish Butterflies Rarities: http://www.butterflyrarities.com
User avatar
David M
Posts: 17780
Joined: Tue Aug 11, 2009 8:17 pm
Location: South Wales

Re: New Biology Section

Post by David M »

I notice that not too many people have commented on this.

I shall do my bit to buck the trend.

For someone such as me who is a relatively intelligent individual but who lacks a scientific background, this is fantastic stuff. We can't all be geneticists (in fact, most of us are anything but) so the dialogue is most welcome in the sense that it is sufficiently simple for people like me to understand yet fulfils the purpose of informing those of a more scientific bent as well.

Few indeed are those who can look upon a creature and immediately understand not only its 'niche' but also its relevance in the world from a genetic perspective.

I take my hat off to Pete for posting this. It was (is) extremely interesting and for someone who observes butterflies obsessively out of nothing more than natural curiosity that cannot be academically explained, it has most certainly enriched my knowledge.
Last edited by David M on Thu Oct 21, 2010 9:09 pm, edited 1 time in total.
millerd
Posts: 7055
Joined: Mon Sep 21, 2009 9:31 pm
Location: Heathrow

Re: New Biology Section

Post by millerd »

I too found the whole thing absolutely fascinating and very very readable. It reawakened memories of school biology lessons more years ago than I'd like to count and made me wish I'd paid more attention! If only butterflies had been used as examples... I've seen a few quirky individual butterflies this year and this has helped me understand why they were the way they were.

Dave
User avatar
Pete Eeles
Administrator & Stock Contributor
Administrator & Stock Contributor
Posts: 6768
Joined: Tue Jan 17, 2006 6:10 pm
Location: Thatcham, Berkshire
Contact:

Re: New Biology Section

Post by Pete Eeles »

Thanks chaps - high praise indeed!

Cheers,

- Pete
Life Cycles of British & Irish Butterflies: http://www.butterflylifecycles.com
British & Irish Butterflies Rarities: http://www.butterflyrarities.com
User avatar
Lee Hurrell
Stock Contributor
Stock Contributor
Posts: 2423
Joined: Mon May 25, 2009 7:33 pm
Location: Hampshire

Re: New Biology Section

Post by Lee Hurrell »

Pete,

Just to add my thanks for such good work. I'm only halfway through (I started at lunchtime and have just sat down again...) and it is fascinating. I've learnt things I didn't know and as you've stated, I would imagine that was the point both in writing and reading it!

The links to Wikipedia and other sources are inspired too.

Cheers

Lee
To butterfly meadows, chalk downlands and leafy glades; to summers eternal.
User avatar
Dave McCormick
Posts: 2388
Joined: Fri Mar 16, 2007 8:46 pm
Location: Co Down, Northern Ireland
Contact:

Re: New Biology Section

Post by Dave McCormick »

Just want to also say this section is great. Havn't been around much due to being busy with work and other stuff but will get a better look at it later, from what I saw its quite interesting. like the orange-tips, never seen oddities like that, some with varying steaks of orange in parts of their wings (somehow could be useful for me as I am writing a book on how genetics of butterflies or moths define local populations of a species) that will take quite a long time. I have started recently looking at local moth populations in different areas as moths are still around while butterflies are not.

Currently written a piece on Feathered Thorn as I caught quite a few in my garden and those where lighter coloured and slightly smaller than those I caught in a conifer forest as those were bigger and darker in colouration with more dark speckling in wings, see:

You can't really do this with butterflies except with pinned specimens, but with moths you can cam them down enough to photograph as a voucher specimen then release without killing it. What I have been doing is catching moths, noting the size of the moth, where it was taken and habitat and any notes such as male or female, marking, colour etc..

I started with using my Canon 500D, Sigma 105mm Macro, Tripod and a peice of grey card. I first photographed a ruler on the card (to show sizes of moths) then using the exact same settings, natural light, to take photos of the moths and make an image set of moths. Here is an example of Red-Green Carpet all taken in a Conifer forest not far from a mixed forest with some willows nearby:
Red-Green Carpet
Red-Green Carpet
And here are some more I have been working on (first were taken in a oak/birch forest and rest from my garden):
Various Macros
Various Macros
Cheers all,
My Website: My new website: http://daveslepidoptera.com/ - Last Update: 11/10/2011
My Nature videos: http://www.youtube.com/user/DynamixWarePro
User avatar
Wurzel
Stock Contributor
Stock Contributor
Posts: 12871
Joined: Wed Sep 09, 2009 5:44 pm
Location: Salisbury
Contact:

Re: New Biology Section

Post by Wurzel »

I don't know how helpful this would be but I came across an oldish book at my parents house that has some useful stuff about scale structure, genetics, mimicry etc..The book is "The Illustrated Encyclopedia of the Butterfly World by Paul Smart, published by Book Club Associates by agreement with Salamander Books, 1975".

Hope you can get something from it, stroll on the spring!!

Cheers

Wurzel
Post Reply

Return to “Books, Articles, Videos, TV”