Not happy with my own identification of a couple

[TedM]

In my new and growing collection of butterfly images, there are a couple I took this week where I'm not entirely happy with my own amateur attempts at identifying them. I THINK they are a Meadow Brown and a Wall Brown but they don't quite match the images here or in the books. Any advise or thoughts would be appreciated.
Many thanks.
Ted

(Images are attachments - one day I'll find out how to stick 'em in the text box, lol.)

[JKT]

The first is Speckled wood, but the second is correct.

[TedM]

Wow, thanks for the quick reply. Just shows my advancing years are inversely proportional to my identification skills, lol. I've already got a couple of images of the underside of a Speckled Wood from a couple of years ago but still failed to spot the similarity. Thanks too for confirming the Meadow Brown was correct. It didn't quite look right to me - not orange enough around the eye and darker around the wing edges than I'd expected - so I appreciate the reassurance.
Thanks again.
Ted

[JKT]

I'd say it is a worn sample. The orange has faded and the white scales at the edges are almost gone.

[Jack Harrison]

A Wall Brown would be a good find nowadays - they have become quite scarce, especially inland. Speckled Woods conversely have become very common.

Jack

[David M]

A Wall Brown would be a good find nowadays - they have become quite scarce, especially inland. Speckled Woods conversely have become very common.

Jack

Correct. Wall Browns were ten a penny during my childhood years in NW England but I've yet to see one in the two and a half years I've been living in Wales.

What's happened to them?

[TedM]

The Wall Brown is said to be quite widespread here in Cornwall so I'll keep my eyes peeled and if I manage to get an image of one I'll let the forum know. You've set me a challenge now, lol. I just hope I can live up to it.
Ted