More Moths for ID

[Zonda]

Grud said;

I must of took 300 images

'Have taken' please,,,
It is gut wrenchingly awful when something like that happens. We've all had it, and we all learn by our mistakes. It always seems to happen when shots are unlikely to be repeatable.

[JKT]

It always seems to happen when shots are unlikely to be repeatable.

I really should hope so. In my case it was with pictures of a burning house - my house. Oh well, they were otherwise fine, but the ISO was 1600 in the early evening.

[Pete Eeles]

I had a Hummingbird Hawk-moth today and I was gutted as I took photo's on the wrong setting. This is what I ended up with.

Ouch. I don't want to rub salt into your wounds - but that would have been one hell of a photo. I mean, it's pretty darn good as it is

Cheers,

- Pete

[Dave McCormick]

A couple of years ago we had but one single day of snow. I must of took 300 images at various locations that day, only to get home and find the camera was on M. I had only checked the viewing screen once the whole morning, and out of the 300 images I took, the only one I checked, was the only one that came out, I could of cried.

Regards Gruditch

Yeah I have done that before, now I quickly check the camera is on right mode before I shoot, but because of where the M is on the dial, not always easy to get it right, especially when you have to get a shot fast. But you think you had it bad? I went last year to a place that is about 50-60 miles away from where I live, really wanted to go there and get photos as I had been told by the huge numbers of common blues and meadow browns there (in their hundreds) and only Northern Irish location of green winged orchids too, only place in Ireland to see them or something. I get there, guess what? I left my camera battery behind! Can't take any photos. I did see large numbers of meadow browns and quite a few common blues, but no shots! Gotta get back there in the spring.

I have 2 more moths I would like help with

The first moth image was taken last month:

Moth 1

This was taken 25th June:

Moth2

[JKT]

These are not exactly easy. The latter looks like one of the Oligias. Possibly O. fasciuncula or O. latruncula. The former I've never seen and the latter doesn't look quite right, but it is worn, so...

The former MIGHT be an Euxoa, but it could be something else as well. Doesn't look quite right for anything I'm familiar with.

[Denise]

I thought that the second could be Dusky Sallow, but I don't know the first.

Denise

[ChrisC]

possibly flounced rustic for the first one?

chris

[Dave McCormick]

I was about to reply erlier, but something happened and the page would not load.

I looked at fasciuncula and its only found from late May to 1-2nd September, that was taken on 25th September and it seems a bit late for it. It does match flounced Rustic that Chris said, which I was going to say before I got cut of from posting reply.

Denise, I checked Dusky Sallow and its not present in Northern Ireland, well its not in my "The butterflies and moths of Northern Ireland" book and according to UKMoths, its restricted to the south-east of England mainly, with scattered occurrences elsewhere up to Yorkshire, so I can't see it being that. The colours don't 100% match and I remember seeing a few of those moths all with same/similar markings.

Thanks for help so far, just need an ID on second one

[ChrisC]

How big was the nectaring moth? any other views? as it looked quite small i was looking at a worn Least minor.By no means a definite ID , just a thought.

chris

[JKT]

as it looked quite small i was looking at a worn Least minor.By no means a definite ID , just a thought.

I'd say it is a pretty good thought too. However, UKMoths claims june to august, which is a bit problematic here. Second generation?

[ChrisC]

I thought the taken on June 25th above the picture applied to that one.

Chris

[Dave McCormick]

Yeah it was taken on 25th June and it is about the same size as least minor and does look sort of like it, but there are no records of it in Northern Ireland and its not in my book The butterflies and moths of Northern Ireland either

[Dave McCormick]

I e-mailed the moth recorder for Northern Ireland and managed to get an ID on both those moths. They were Flounced Rustic and Middle Barred Minor was the small one, only this one had brigher markings than the one on UKMoths, so JKT, you were right. I was told the Least minor is very small and only found in the Burren in Co Clare in Ireland. The Middle Barred Minor was 22-26 mm and Least Minor is 15-18 mm, so I thought by the size it was not it