Copy of previous posting from the ID forum. Anyone any ideas or suggestions.
These are not good pictures. All were taken from a train window in Sweden (!). If anyone can hazard a guess at what they are of I would be very grateful, thanks.
Apologies for the pictures and the potential problems seeing what the pictures are of.
Thanks as always
All the best
Paul
ID request re Sweden
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I think the blues are Amanda's, sitting among the larval foodplant. I hesitate to guess at the fritillaries, but possibly Lesser Marbled.
Misha
Misha
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I think the third blue is female P. icarus. Can't say anything about the frits.
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The female looks like f.isias of amanda to me. Can't be certain though. Have a look at Tolman and Lewington plate 32.
Misha
Misha
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True enough. It could well be that. I keep forgetting it as I have never (knowingly) seen one.
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Pretty good pictures from a train window!!
I'm very confident the amandus ID is correct - that was certainly the first (and only) thing that sprang into my mind on seeing the first two pictures. The third blue is not a form I'm familiar with, but the fact it looked so weird to me supports the idea it's a nordic speciality.
I also agree with the lesser marbled ID, though with less confidence. I don't think it's Clossiana, and of the Brenthis, ino is easily the most likely. Lesser marbled fritillary is nearly always found near stands of meadowsweet, a conspicuous plant with its soft white flowers even when viewed from a train. It is also normally found near water, or at least in damp meadows. Does that match the area the train was passing through?
Guy
I'm very confident the amandus ID is correct - that was certainly the first (and only) thing that sprang into my mind on seeing the first two pictures. The third blue is not a form I'm familiar with, but the fact it looked so weird to me supports the idea it's a nordic speciality.
I also agree with the lesser marbled ID, though with less confidence. I don't think it's Clossiana, and of the Brenthis, ino is easily the most likely. Lesser marbled fritillary is nearly always found near stands of meadowsweet, a conspicuous plant with its soft white flowers even when viewed from a train. It is also normally found near water, or at least in damp meadows. Does that match the area the train was passing through?
Guy
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That is also the only species of that genus found in Sweden...padfield wrote:I don't think it's Clossiana, and of the Brenthis, ino is easily the most likely.
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Many thanks for the help once again. The pictures I asked about were all taken through a closed train window when it broke down on its way out of Stockholm. We had to disembark for 1/2 hour soon afterwards. I couldn't find these one to photograph again but did find a Ringlet and a Large Skipper plus this one which I am sure is a Pearly Heath.
All the best
Paul
All the best
Paul
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Hi Paul,
Looks like Pearly Heath to me.
Denise
Looks like Pearly Heath to me.
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