id help again for 2 little uns

[Algol]

two pics taken today, that need id help, i think the first is a large white, possibly female, and the second is a male holly blue.

[Dave McCormick]

Hi Algol,

Yes, those are both right. The first is a female large white and the second is a holly blue. Can't really tell from underside if that's is a male, but male holly blues are all blue on upperside and females have dark parches on upperside of wings.

[Algol]

cheers dave, the little holly blue wouldn't open its wings, but when it flew away it was blue above also

[eccles]

Difficult to tell conclusively, but the abdomen of the blue appears to me to be long and slim, suggesting that it's a male. I've seen very few in my area so far this year.