Skipper for identification

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Medard
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Skipper for identification

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Another Skipper for identification please, this one has me confused as it has brown antenna tips, photo taken near Revest-de-Brion, Alpes-de-Haute-Provence. 24-06-2017

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Looks like a Small Skipper... unless the taxonomic splitters have been at the Thymelicus sp. in Europe :)
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But the golden apex to the forewing suggests acteon ...

Are there any upperside shots at all - even bad ones?

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But the golden apex to the forewing suggests acteon ...

Are there any upperside shots at all - even bad ones?
Thanks for the comments, regrettable the above 24-06-2017 is the only picture I have.
The four photos below were taken at the same location on the 22-06-2017

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MAY_8691 Essex Skipper (Thymelicus lineolus) Col de Negron    3x2.jpg
MAY_8675 Essex Skipper (Thymelicus lineolus) Col de Negron Drome.  3x2.jpg
MAY_8657 Essex Skipper (Thymelicus lineolus) Col de Negron Drome.  3x2.jpg
MAY_8711 Essex Skipper (Thymelicus lineolus) Col de Negron Drome.  3x2.jpg
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Those 4 all look like like Essex Skippers, the first 3 definitely are. I agree with Guy that Lulworth is a definite possibility with the first one (wasn't even thinking about them when I made my initial ID)
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Hi Bugboy I had captioned the four skippers as Essex ,so I did get that right, initially I thought the first photo was also an Essex Skipper but the Brown antenna had me confused.
Thanks for your input, It's a big learning curve, you fellows are so helpful.
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The colour contrast on the undersides is useful, if not 100% reliable.

Small skipper typically has good contrast between apex and ground colour, and the hindwing is the same colour as the apex. The undersides of the antennae are buff:

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Essex skipper typically has weak contrast - often golden everywhere. The undersides of the antennae are black.

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Lulworth skipper typically has weak contrast - often golden everywhere. The undersides of the antennae are buff. This is an awful picture, but it illustrates the points:

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