In my search for Elms a couple of these trees have come to light close to home. They don't look particularly Elm like from a distance when in full leaf and so I only spotted them recently.
They have profuse but small flowers and the leaves are also small 60-80mm long and 30-40mm in width. Leaves are thin, smooth and shiny without hairs, but stalks are slightly hairy.
Some of the locations where I have found these trees may possibly have been the grounds of large houses in the past.
Can Anybody Identify This Elm Species
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Sweet Chestnut?
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Pete Eeles wrote:Sweet Chestnut?
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It could be one of the 'Asian' elms, such as Siberian elm. The picture in the Collins Tree Guide for Siberian elm has exactly the same shaped crown and the entry in Wikipedia even shows a white-letter hairstreak larva on the flowers ...
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Paul Harfield wrote:Pete Eeles wrote:Sweet Chestnut?
CheersMaybe I should have said.......I found two White Letter Hairstreak larvae happily munching on it at the weekend
. It does not produce CHESTNUTS either
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I was always told that if the base of the leaf started on one side before the other, ie not symmetrical, as in your pic.... it was an Elm.
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Thanks Kip you are correct, that is a reliable way to identify Elm though it is quite variable.Kip wrote:I was always told that if the base of the leaf started on one side before the other, ie not symmetrical, as in your pic.... it was an Elm.
Thanks Guy for the suggestion.
Pete maybe you were thinking of Ulmus sativa
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