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Cheers, Allan - I could watch Small Coppers all day long and never get bored!

With such a good weather forecast, James, I prescribe you a visit to Dungeness!

All the best

Hoggers.

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Fantastic copper's again Hogger's and very interesting too, the females seem to take no stick from the males once they've mated that seems to be the way most of the females react in the species I've seen so far, I particularly like the way the Speckled Wood Female plays dead :lol: Goldie :D

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Hi Hoggers,
Just re-read my reply to you,bit of gobledegook on my behalf,i said I saw 5 Coppers at Brookland (and one in the pub garden ) which we did,and then saw 2 at Brookland !
what I meant to say,was 2 (MIN) Clouded Yellows ! silly ole .......... Nipped out this late afternoon,and headed to another site In Orlestone ,but no go ,much too overgrown,passed another
site i.d earmarked but that was in full shade + it too looked too overgrown ,so ended up at yesterdays spot,the Radiata was still present,in fact it was the only one I saw,until I was actually leaving,and I found another very fresh male,i will try to add some posts as and when I re-visit the sites. regards Allan.W.

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It was gloriously warm and sunny at Dungeness. I took my usual walk, accompanied today by my brother. We both felt that the 2016 Small Copper season has moved into its Autumnal stage
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Most were tired-looking third brood Coppers with just a few from the fourth brood as yet
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Hopefully the number of fresh Coppers will increase soon
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It was one of those sleepy kind of days when there seemed to be very little in the way of interaction between the Coppers
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They all seemed preoccupied with locating any of the increasingly scarce nectar sources and feeding
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I admired this 7-spotted female
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And it was fun to watch others enjoying the sunshine
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As we walked back to the car we were stopped by two heavily armed Police Officers, both in their manner were very pleasant indeed, but both nonetheless professionally inquisitive as to what we were doing. (I visit Dungeness frequently and often seen police officers on anti-terrorist duties.) They looked like a couple of 25 year olds, but there they were carrying automatic weapons.

"Morning guys" one said, "Lovely day"
I agreed that it was.
"What is it that you're taking such an interest in?" the other asked.
"Don't take this the wrong way" I said " but I'm interested in Small Coppers". They both laughed and I explained what I meant by pointing to a flower with a Small Copper on it
One of the officers was very impressed : "Happy Days!" he said as he looked at the butterfly
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I must say it was most strange to see a heavily armed police officer, dressed in an intimidating black combat uniform, on duty, bending down to watch a Small Copper. He was immediately transformed from on first appearances ,a rather unsettling and scary robot, in to a smiling and entranced human being
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My Copper count for last thursday was 63 but today only 35
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Hoggers wrote:
"What is it that you're taking such an interest in?" the other asked.
"Don't take this the wrong way" I said " but I'm interested in Small Coppers"
:D

Priceless!

Good for you, Hoggers, that you happened upon a 'copper' with a sense of humour!

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Cheers David : both "coppers" were perfectly amiable, so I've no complaints, but I do hope they're presence at Dungeness does not become intrusive ( and I just cannot adjust to seeing live firearms - I find the sight repugnant )

Anyway, on a much lighter note, I returned to Dungeness today to make the most of this wonderful September sunshine
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Of the 43 Small Coppers that I came across most were bashed and dented but nonetheless still a respectable few in presentable condition
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I watched a male perform the Stalk Dance and another try his luck with a female
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I saw a Red Admiral, two Painted Ladies, a Large White, several Small Heaths, Common Blues and this Brown Argus
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Although the Small Coppers are petering out , Dungeness can still produce the occasional surprise
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A gorgeous male radiata
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He had clearly established a definite territory for himself
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Doubtless taking advantage of near-by sources of nectar
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I was able to introduce the reserve warden,David Walker, to this little jewel so if anyone needs help in finding the radiata they just need to ask David
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Happy September Days!

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HI Hoggers,
Good to see the Dungeness Coppers still doing well. I accidently stumbled upon a large colony
at Windover hill, up on the South Downs, whilst looking for Wall Browns this week.
I was aware that this site had Small Coppers, but to see so many was amazing.

Make the most of them, we've a long period of enforced idleness on the way !.
Trevor.

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Nice one Hoggers !! how manys that now ? I,d say that one is close to "Oblitera " found an absolutely tiny individual near Littlestone ,with a wingspan
no more than 12-15mm,very unusual ,and a Wall Brown in Orlestone,my 1st since 97. Regards Allan.W.

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Sorry Hoggers !, I meant to say AB;Obseleta. (not Oblitera.) Regards Allan.W.

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Hi! Hogger's great your still seeing Copper's, I've not seen any since I saw that one before I left to go on holiday to Kent in August, Still seeing a few Butterflies in my garden though. Goldie :D

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Yet another unusual specimen, Hoggers. It sometimes seems that they outnumber the normal ones.

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With all of these lovely aberrant Small Coppers you're finding surely it must only be a matter of time before you find yourself an ab.schmidtii Hoggers. They are quite fabulous and an ab I would really love to see... perhaps one day. Until then I shall just have to be content with asking Neil Hulme about the time he saw one.

This is probably the bit where you tell me that you've already seen one (or more) if so please forgive me but I don't remember seeing it in your diary.

Best Wishes

James

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Hi guys, thanks for your generous comments, much appreciated.

Looking at this website and all of the diaries it seems that there's been a sudden surge in Coppers - I'ts good to hear that so many are now being seen.

Alas, James, I've never had the pleasure of seeing a schmidtii, The Holy Grail of the Coppers!

Maybe one day...!

All the best

Hoggers

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My car dashboard indicated a temperature of 13.5C when I arrived at Dungeness this morning and a lively breeze made it feel that much chillier. But I've been a'Coppering in far less promising conditions and as the morning went on we enjoyed some prolonged sunny spells (it was 19.5C when I left for home)

And anyway,it doesn't take much to get the Coppers going
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Just a bit of sunshine will do the trick
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Although they are now rather thin on the ground
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I counted only 9 today
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And you can judge their condition from the photos
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But although we are now approaching the end of the season it is always a delight to see a Small Copper no matter what its condition
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And there are still useful observations to be made. I chanced upon two males and when they had a set-to I took some snaps
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Probably the last duelling Coppers I'll see this year!
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But what interested me is what happened when they landed. You can see the paler of the two deliberately crowding the brighter male
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He wasn't attempting to mate with the brighter male but he was definitely pushing forward and getting into the other's "personal space"
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This is something I've watched before. It's as if the one male is goading the other into taking flight and resuming the duel. But what interested me was the reaction of the other male : he refused to fly and instead he would give the briefest of flutter of his forewings, just a quick shimmy, then walk away from his provoker. It reminded me of the way female Coppers will reject unwanted males |(but in the male the behaviour is not nearly so well pronounced).

I think the wing flutter signals "Leave me alone" in Copper semaphore.

Talking of Copper Semaphore: Antennae Down!
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I wonder what that means? !

It was good to spend some time at the end of the season with the Coppers of Dungeness
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I made the first of my 2017 Small Copper Hunts today at Dungeness and found this beauty
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Just the one
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But if the weather forecast for the coming weekend holds true many more will join her

Also two Holly Blues, a Brimstone and a Speckled Wood in my garden.

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Nice one Hoggers!! (welcome back) See you on the shingle !! Regards Allan.W.

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Nice one Hoggers - surely that's the first for 2017? :D :mrgreen:
Have a goodun

Wurzel

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Great to see what I'm sure will be the first of many lovely Coppers. :)

Dave

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Good to see you back Hoggers :)

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Great! Hoggers is back...and that can mean only one thing:

Small Coppers are about again. :D

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