Trev, Pete , M-Galathea....Thankyou so much for your replies...Sawflies !!! I really am beaten all ends up with sawflies.....I would not know where to start, I certainly would never have guessed. Thanks for the link Pete.....did it help?..you ask!..the answer is no !!!.....I had no idea there were so many species of Sawfly....this is mind boggling.
I am a bit of a Butterfly nazi you see, I am only looking for Butterflies and everything else gets pretty much ignored.
I have a friend who specializes in bees, I was under the impression I could send her photos of bees and she would simply tell me what they were..ha...ha...ha......No chance..so many species ,sub-species.....mind blowing. But thankyou guys,I have learned something ,and that is what it is all about.
M-Galathea, I am very interested in moths but I have never had the time to learn anything about them..they are just as spectacular for me as butterflies......however, all those brown ones...........hundreds and hundreds of brown ones.!!!!!!!!!!!
I looked up your suggestion on Uk moths....I dont think you are very far away, I did find it on wetland.....and dropwort does exist on this site.....I also looked up more Depressaria species.............and thats when I began to despair at the fine lines of identification......just incredible.
Any help on that ridiculous plant yet?.........it cant be native..on plants I am not to bad, and this I sure aint seen before....garden escapee me thinks.....a south african lily or summit .
Anyway thanks again all
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