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The Galloways were there at the end of last year. I remember bumping into Susie and she commented that they were earlier than usual. My thinking is that the mild winter and wet spring has produced a glut of vegetation :?: Would a change in grazing regime be needed to compensate for a warming climate? I visited on the 21st and saw perhaps 6 or 7 males flying but I left just as the clouds were clearing so it probably reached the dizzy heights of double figures!

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Good to see you posting on here again PJ. I'll bet you have a lot of material we would like to see.
Next year at Chiddingfold I will leave early !! :lol:

Very best wishes,
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Trevor ,
Thank you for those comments.I have not been able to do my usual butterfly trip to far off lands this year,due to the illness of my friend.However the future is looking bright.We saw two Valesina varieties in Botany Bay on Wed.17th Aug.
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Good morning, Philip.

In my opinion the image you have posted is of a 'normal' female paphia not the valesina form. The valesina form of the female is a deep olive-green instead of the usual orange-brown.

Good hunting.

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Sorry Mark,It just appeared to have rather a lot of green on it-like a Cardinal.
Philip

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bugboy wrote:The Galloways were there at the end of last year. I remember bumping into Susie and she commented that they were earlier than usual. My thinking is that the mild winter and wet spring has produced a glut of vegetation :?: Would a change in grazing regime be needed to compensate for a warming climate? I visited on the 21st and saw perhaps 6 or 7 males flying but I left just as the clouds were clearing so it probably reached the dizzy heights of double figures!
I agree with Buggy that the weather this year is probably to blame. When I visited Denbies at the tail end of April, it looked relatively normal. I think the rampant grass growth has been since then, after the end of any winter grazing, so I don't think the regime is at fault. Denbies is not alone - Box Hill is much the same, and Aston Rowant. The grass is extremely tall. Even my local patch has dry grass stalks at eye level at the moment in the meadow areas - even the unfussy Meadow Browns don't seem happy with that.

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P.J.Underwood wrote:Sorry Mark,It just appeared to have rather a lot of green on it-like a Cardinal.
Philip
Something to look forward to, P.J. ... when you see your first valesina your jaw will drop, your tongue fall out, etc. :) Happens to me every time ;)

Cheers,

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Chiddingfold this year

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It was just a week ago,that with Trevor,I saw two P.E.'s flying.Then Mark Colvin came along with his friend (John?) and showed us photo's from the previous Saturday,including a grounded female.Then ,from Wednesday onwards it was brilliant.We had up to four grounded at the same time,and staying.This next Monday,after a dullish weekend,they were still appearing and I saw four this morning.They were definitely very friendly,trying my boot for taste,pairing up to a Red Admiral and not being frightened off by a fox.Silver Washed Frits and White Admirals were out in large numbers.The season is boiling up in the woods.
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A friendly P.E.
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All I need is purple.
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I do like the shot with the Red Admiral, Philip. It really shows off how much larger the Emperor is... :)

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millerd wrote:I do like the shot with the Red Admiral, Philip. It really shows off how much larger the Emperor is
Absolutely. Red Admirals aren't exactly small, but that Emperor is a heavyweight in comparison.

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Another great day Philip, they have developed a taste for shoes this year!.
I agree, the shot with the Red Admiral is amazing, if only because the RA's
are usually skittish, and could easily have panicked that lovely Emperor.

Might see you this week if the forecast improves.
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This was probably our last chance(in life) to see the Mountain Ringlet.So myself,Bill Plumb and Malcolm Greenwood set off for the Lakes in a window of what was to be three sunny days.We firstly went to Arnside Knott,where the hillside was alive with Small Pearl Border Frits. most in excellent condition.We also saw the odd Scotch Argus,and three Grayling.Later that day we went to the Large Heath area at the Osprey Centre and were rewarded with many good sightings.
The next day was the big one,Irton Fell for the Mountain Ringlet.We saw about three on the lower slopes and then had the good fortune to meet Pete Eeles coming down the Fell,who directed us to a hotspot.Reaching this,with a falling temperature and gusty wind,we were still lucky to find about another dozen,one being very photogenic.
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Large Heath
Large Heath
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In the grass
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A friendly Mountain Ringlet

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Glad you found the Mountain Ringlet, P.J.! BTW - your "Scotch Argus" is a Northern Brown Argus :)

Cheers,

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Thanks Pete for sorting me out!
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Cracking envy inducing post P.J. :D :mrgreen: That would have been three lifers for me :D

Have a goodun

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I'm really glad you got to see the Mountain Ringlets, PJ, if a little sad about your comments regarding it being a 'last chance'.

Great you notched up Northern Brown Argus too. Definitely a worthwhile trip.

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David,
Thank you for your comments.It has taken three years for the three of us to be in the right place at the right time.We have to do advance booking-that is the problem.This year we hit the jackpot.We were up there for the small window of three glorious days,and succeeded.So that is why we probably will never be in the position to do it again.There are many easier places for us to visit.
You might like to look at the post I sent to Trevor about the unusual behaviour this year of P.E.'s at Chiddingfold.
P.J.U.

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