Unidentified moth

bugboy · Post by **bugboy** » Thu Mar 12, 2015 11:02 pm

Hiya, I was wondering whether any of you clever people would be able to ID this moth. Apologies for the poor quality pic. It was taken May 2003 in north London. I had originally labelled it as a Garden Pebble Evergestis forficalis but now looking at it I'm not so sure but can't find anything in my books to match it.

Many thanks in advance

Buggy

andy brown · Post by **andy brown** » Fri Mar 13, 2015 7:09 am

Morning Bugboy

It is a Straw Dot, (Rivula sericealis)

Thanks

Andy

bugboy · Post by **bugboy** » Fri Mar 13, 2015 12:30 pm

Thanks Andy, good choice in avatar btw

CJB · Post by **CJB** » Mon Mar 16, 2015 3:25 pm

Dear Buggy,

I wondered if you could assist me with my own unidentified moth? I found it next to a petrol pump residing on the fire sand sack!

: Unknown Moth

Any help by you or others is much appreciated!

Flutter on!

CJB

Post by **Mark Colvin** » Mon Mar 16, 2015 4:30 pm

Hi CJB,

It's an Oak Beauty, Biston strataria. An attractive species.

More at http://ukmoths.org.uk/show.php?id=2639

Kind regards. Mark

bugboy · Post by **bugboy** » Mon Mar 16, 2015 6:22 pm

You beat me to it Mark, yes a proper little stunner, never seen one myself.

CJB · Post by **CJB** » Tue Mar 17, 2015 3:44 pm

Thanks Mark and Buggy for the ID.

A new one for me too! I am hoping to set up a moth trap this summer to see what else is around where I live, so will no doubt have loads more for you to id!

Still yet to see my first 2015 butterfly, which has surprised me as I have been cycling around a lot and thought the temperature and sunlight would have been conducive, but no luck so far!

Flutter on!

CJB

Tony Moore · Post by **Tony Moore** » Tue Mar 17, 2015 5:57 pm

Hi CJB,

If you set up a moth trap, do send your records in to your County Recorder. I'm sure you'll be astonished by what turns up. I have a small urban garden, half a mile from the centre of Stafford. In three seasons, I recorded 323 macro species including 30 odd new to my 10 km square and the 3rd and 4th county record for Annulet

. You will find that every morning is like Christmas

.

Tony M.

bugboy · Post by **bugboy** » Tue Mar 17, 2015 9:31 pm

If you're planning on moth trapping it might be worth investing in some ID guides, I use these two:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Field-Guide-Mot ... ords=moths

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Field-Guide-Mic ... ords=moths

I was looking in the wrong one when trying to ID my original post, I was convinced it was a micro

!

CJB · Post by **CJB** » Wed Mar 18, 2015 9:52 am

HI Tony and BugBoy,

I will definitely record the findings although I suspect I will be pleading for id's every time time, so get your typing fingers ready! Buggy, your suggestions of id guides are much appreciated!

I am in the heart of Gloucs and am hoping for some great specimens to turn up, however, if you can give me some pointers on a cost effective way to make a trap, let me know.

Flutter on!

CJB

Tony Moore · Post by **Tony Moore** » Wed Mar 18, 2015 3:17 pm

Hi CJB,

The 'For sale and wanted' forum seems to have vanished

. I no longer use my Paul Batty trap and would be prepared to sell it for £50. It's not pretty, but very functional and has a rain cover, waterproof choke and spare lamp. It would have to be collected from Stafford. PM me if you are interested.
IMHO the best moth book is : Field Guide to the Moths of Great Britain and Ireland by Waring and Townsend (macros only). ISBN no.0 9531399 2 1 (paperback).

Good luck,

Tony M.

CJB · Post by **CJB** » Wed Mar 18, 2015 3:34 pm

Hi Tony,

I have no idea what a Paul Batty trap is (!), but sadly Stafford is rather a lot of petrol which would wipe out any savings!!

I will have a look for the book you recommend and once again thank you for your response.

Flutter on!

CJB

bugboy · Post by **bugboy** » Tue Jul 21, 2015 9:22 pm

A couple more moths for ID if anyone has a couple of minutes spare

. both taken today on chalk downland in the Chilterns

and same one from another angle

I'm having a stab and saying its a rather worn Wainscot of some sort

No idea about this one though, very small but not sure if it's a 'macro' or 'micro'. About the size of a Pyrausta

Thank you

ChrisC · Post by **ChrisC** » Tue Jul 21, 2015 9:49 pm

Small Purple-barred Phytometra viridaria

bugboy · Post by **bugboy** » Tue Jul 21, 2015 10:03 pm

ChrisC wrote:Small Purple-barred Phytometra viridaria

Thank you, wouldn't have had it down as a Noctuid!

ChrisC · Post by **ChrisC** » Tue Jul 21, 2015 10:07 pm

wait til you get to see a waved black...... looks like a geometrid.

bugboy · Post by **bugboy** » Tue Jul 21, 2015 10:19 pm

ChrisC wrote:wait til you get to see a waved black...... looks like a geometrid.

Levant Blackneck and Pinion-streaked Snout look like Pyralids/Crambids, This is why I try and stick with Butterflies

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