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not that one. sorry. will try again in spring thanks all. michaelrosy

i realise that this identification has been taxing for us all, but we are no nearer to an answer. let the matter rest until the spring, when i hope to see the creature again and get a photo. thanks for all replies, even the wierd ones.

sorry guys its neither of these!

not a monarch. wrong colour

no sorry nothing like any of them.

closest to the shoemaker but the red was on top of the wing as well and was deep scarlet

have checked link. not like this atall wings were velvety, no shine. red markings and smooth wing edges.

camberwell beauty has indented wings but the size and overall shape are similar, in my opinion

thanks for replies chaps. i am still puzzled myself. i have never seen anything like it before.it was the size and shape of a camberwell beauty. slow flying but in black and red with white and blue. i will keep an eye out for it and maybe snap it if possible.

no not like that. wings like large white, softly rounded scarlet markings on both wings, white with a little blue on top wing-tips

sorry but no the wings were rounded with no indents at all.

i am rubbish at computers, so cannot fill in sketch.no idea how to do it. most of the wing was black with a scarlet stripe round the edge with a little white and i think blue on the top wing-tip. never seen anything like it. it was in a garden in prestiegn, powys, where i was visiting on saturday.

i saw this butterfly resting. it was definitely not a red admiral as there were few red markings, more like lines of deep scarlet on a deep black wing the wing shape was like a cabbage white, broad and rounded. as far as i know there are no butterfly farms in the area

not a camberwell beauty or a peacock. something i have never seen before.

have seen a butterfly not in any identification book. could not photograph.nearly all black large wings with deep scarlet markings. can anyone help?